Messi is anything but boring. Incredible player, never seen a dribbler like him.

Incredible, yes. Impossible to defend against, yes. But for some reason i am left cold

It's because Messi has no charisma. Not just off the pitch, he has a robotic style about him. Nowhere near the swagger of other greats of the game.

So true. He is amazing though, and well on his way of being the greatest ever to play the game. Can't believe anyone would rate C.Ronaldo over the real deal; that is just mental. Have to keep reminding myself that Volly wasn't actually around to see him play.

Messi's lack of charm has a bit to do with Barcelona's lack of charm. After all, they're fairly robotic winners, which makes his achievements seem more so.

He'd be a more enjoyable player in a more swashbuckling setup - except it's long been rumoured he can't tolerate other egos up front.

Burnwinter wrote:

He'd be a more enjoyable player in a more swashbuckling setup - except it's long been rumoured he can't tolerate other egos up front.

Watch him play for Argentina. Fucking immense.

Argentina need to give Messi a solid defensive platform to work from. They do that, I think they have a great chance of winning the whole thing.

Their midfield diamond or 442 rhombus or whatever you want to call it works so well. Higuain plays on the last shoulder, Aguero can go up to partner or drop deep or go wide, Messi gets more space than he does when playing for Barca. Di Maria plays both CM and LW at the same time. They've also played 442 with Messi off of a #9.

Not sure if they have enough talent at the back but if Messi, Aguero, and Di Maria are in good physical condition I can see them making the Semi Finals at least.

Del Piero once said he cried watching two players play, Baggio and Giggs. I've never cried watching a player, but if I did it would probably be this guy. Simply cannot understand how someone can control the football at such pace.

Volante wrote:

Del Piero once said he cried watching two players player, Baggio and Giggs.

For different reasons, one would suspect.

I have never cried watching a player either. My eyes little bit water watching Giroud though.

I cried during a football game once...oh wait, no i didn't, i'm not a girl.

I cried a number of times when watching Almunia and Gervinho.

The Real Ronaldo is just immense. Best step overs ever

Zidane or Ronaldinho?

Ronaldinho's peak was miles better than anything Zizou did. I'd take Zidane though.

Not sure I agree with the '....Ever' part, but I do really enjoy this compilation. Wanted to post it as a few poster's were mentioning that Ronaldo has lost some of his allure as he's become more clinical. I definitely agree with that, but its still there.

He's not the most complete attacker now, never mind all time.

From those I've seen in my lifetime, this would be my eleven

--------Baggio---Ronaldo
C Ronaldo---------------Messi
----------Zidane--Mattheus
-Maldini--Adams--Campbell-cafu
--------------schmeichael

You were around in Maradona's twilight years though, Dules. No love for him? Best player I have ever seen, and sooo much fun to watch.

Think I'd go with this

--------------Buffon
Zanetti---Baresi---Campbell---Maldini
----------Zidane---Platini
Messi-------Maradona--------C.Ronaldo
-------------Ronaldo

Pele should of course be in there, but I was too young to remember properly. That central midfield doesn't really look very good defensively either. 🙂

Maradona played, and scored in the '94 WC, dude...

I can never decide on a best ever team as the issue is always the players left out.
Even trying to choose, say, the best ever number nine.
I would choose Romario as his coldness in front of goal was just ....

Pele and Cruijff should be in every all time XI. End of.

I loved Rivaldo personally.

They don't make them like that anymore.

Volante wrote:

Pele and Cruijff should be in every all time XI. End of.

Well, Dula said players one had actually seen. Would narrow it down quite a bit for you, Volly...

Takes 40 seconds in that compilation before the first bicycle kick is on show. I must have seen him nail a dozen of those. He was such a walking contradiction as a player, bit like Ibrahimovic currently. There's no way a striker of that size should be able to pull off some of the stuff he did.

Buffon, Thuram, Campbell, Maldini, Cole, Vieira, Keane, Zidane, Messi, Ronaldo, Henry

Klaus wrote:

I loved Rivaldo personally.

...
They don't make them like that anymore.

Too right.
He was still playing fairly recently however old he is now!
I remember watching a game when Barcelona had a free kick more than 30 yards out and someone, maybe Guardiola was contemplating clipping it into the box a la Ozil/Walcott. All over a sudden the crowd start chanting Rivaldo!, Riivaaldo!!, Riivaaaldo!!!,....
This was around the time Van Gaal had banished him to the wing. The players are not sure what to do but Rivaldo responds to the crowd and walks over, replaces the ball then proceeds to curl a fantastic freekick in the top corner.
Sorry for the long post but ...

Fuck van Gaal. Of all the crimes that clown has committed against football over the years, his treatment of Rivaldo (and eventually putting an end to his career as a top player) has to rank right up there among the worst.

In terms of the best ever team I have seen in my time

Schmeichel
Cafu Nesta Maldini Roberto Carlos
-------Vieira---Pirlo
----------Ronaldinho
Messi Ronaldo Henry

Rivaldo and Kaka in their prime is unplayable too.

Mine:

----------------Kahn
Cafu---Campbell---Maldini---Cole
----------Vieira----Keane
Messi-------Bergkamp-----Ronaldo
----------------Henry