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Forum issues

Pepe LeFrits

Ok, upgrade isn't working. Have spent an hour and am getting nowhere.

invisibleman18

Seems to take an age to load any thread at the moment.

Pepe LeFrits

Burnwinter Mentioned this in the PL thread while trying to joke about United–Pool, but in the open source forum world it looks like Discourse has taken the lead over Flarum. It's also in use by a lot of big name clients for support forums, six times as many Github stars, etc.

Demo instances are snappy not that that means much, but there are decent guides for AWS hosting (Lightsail / SES) at a cost of around 10USD / mo, and some attention to migration though I didn't find much that was Flarum specific.

Anyway this is a bit of an annoying thing to post as I'm not putting my hand up to solve the problem, just saying it could be a decent path forward for OMITT if the bullet were bit.

I think we need a fully hosted solution TBH as it's clear there is nobody here who can manage the technical side. Discourse's cheapest plan for that is $50 which makes it unviable.

Maybe vBulletin cloud might work, seems to start at $15 a month.

Big Willie

Pepe LeFrits Maybe vBulletin cloud might work, seems to start at $15 a month.

Hey @Pepe LeFrits dunno all the costs associated but this one website I was reading on the various forum softwares seemed to suggest that vBulletin was on the pricier side of things. Seemed to also suggest that Xenforo, which AM moved to back in the day, is in the mid price range. The free ones like myBB and phpBB don't have SEO and are generally less customizeable however are free.

Take a look at the website if you have the time. There are two tables at the end comparing all the different forum types.

https://www.ionos.co.uk/digitalguide/hosting/cms/the-best-forum-software/

In any case, I'd be more than happy to contribute to the costs to run it each year.

IBL

Thanks for trying Pepe, can't be easy.

Hopefully things will improve soon for the run in.

Pepe LeFrits

Hmm, have setup a test instance of vBulletin and it feels very dated compared Flarum. Bloated looking (though it looks possible to turn some features off) yet it doesn't have something as simple as a button in the header to return you to the forum home when you're at the end of a thread.

Don Pacifico

Appreciate time/energy being invested in this. Wish I could help but forum building/hosting is completely alien to me!

Pepe LeFrits

Successfully upgraded about 20 minutes ago and CPU usage seems to have plummeted since. Could be a coincidence, but let's see 🤞

I've also disabled all our extensions which is why the forum looks different and is missing features, in case y'all are wondering...

RowJimmy

Pepe LeFrits
I'm happy to contribute more money if there are levels of service that make a difference.

Pepe LeFrits

I think the upgrade has helped, CPU usage has been drastically down since. I've re-enabled some of the extensions and it has gone up a little, but still a lot lower than before. Will monitor it throughout the day, let's see how we get on.

Burnwinter

Pepe LeFrits Awesome if it works out Mike 👏

invisibleman18

Appreciate all the efforts and also happy to chip in if needed.

JazzG

During the Bayern match we'll see how it holds up. The forum definitely feels a lot more snappy.

Pepe LeFrits

JazzG During the Bayern match we'll see how it holds up. The forum definitely feels a lot more snappy.

It does, though some requests still take absolutely ages to load. Seems to be much more sporadic now though, and no issues show up in the performance stats to suggest there's anything wrong like before

Pepe LeFrits

Posting seems really slow sometimes 😧

Pepe LeFrits

lol...

I've been staring at the admin panel for the past hour wondering why the forum version still shows the old version, yet from command line I can see the forum has clearly been upgraded, and the performance stats clearly show it has made a difference...

I upgraded the Dev forum, not this one. I had actually forgotten I had a 2nd instance running at all. So this raises fresh questions...

Pepe LeFrits

Anyway, I've blown away the developer copy of the forum. I find it bizarre that it may have been causing performance issues.

Question is whether I should upgrade the main forum now too. I think I'll wait until tomorrow, see how the performance holds up this evening.

Burnwinter

Pepe LeFrits 🤔 If PHP is firing up the dev forum and it's looking at the same database, it may have been retaining a second pool of open MySQL connections based on the configured limit for the database.

Seem to recall when this first happened I tried increasing the MySQL connection limit due to the content of the logs and some stuff on the community forum, but it wasn't fixing the issue ... but maybe two active Flarum instances were doubling up on that limit, no matter what it was 🙃

goon

It's still a little sluggish, but better I think? We'll find out tonight I guess.

goon

Take it back, it's suddenly very quick, at least the best it's been for a while.

JazzG

Probably best to do it tomorrow incase things go tits up before the match 😆

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