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El Clasico - Real Madrid vs Barcelona 26/10/2013

Tony Montana

Claudius wrote:
Song with the worst pass a Barca player has ever made

Commentator points out his passing is not to the standards of his teammates.

Volante

Weight of pass from Benzema was immense, but Khedira is not Ramsey.

mentalvortex

Real score on a counter through Jese. 2-1.

Tony Montana

Should have scored earlier. They had chances.

Irishgunner

Super pass for the goal.

Irishgunner

FT 2-1

Not a particularly good match tbh.

Bold Tone

Hugo Sanchez now looks like a fake be-wigged Tom Jones

Tony Montana wrote:
I find the English media always go on about Spanish technique and German technique but they always gloss over Italians.

Italy absolutely murdered us with higher technical ability and then they took Germany apart in the next round.

Quietly very very solid.

TBF to the English media, recently, the Spaniards have beaten the Italians due to this higher technical ability!

Tactics

Interesting Tata chose to start Messi on the right, his predecessors didn't have the balls to play him away from the centre. As soon as I saw the line-up I wondered whether Messi would track Madrid's left winger (Ronaldo) deep into his half when Barca lose the ball, or Madrid are on the attack down that side, but he really didn't do it, he stayed far up the pitch, it was mostly one of the Barca CMs (or Cesc on 1 on 2 ocassions) that tracked back. Worst I have seen Messi play.

Barca are done IMO. That super dominant side under Guardiola isn't there anymore, and we are unlikely to see one (of the same quality) for a long time.

Modric was very good today, Madrid's best player, and has probably been their best player this season so far.

Volante

Barca aren't 'done' by any stretch. They won't have the same level of dominance they had from 2008-2011, especially in Europe, with Xavi slowing down but they're still a top side. Barca have got plenty of top young players and this season Busquets is really beginning to blossom and get more responsibility. I said awhile back that he was Xavi's heir, not Cesc or anyone else, and that's turning out to be the case.

They still need a centre back or two, but Barca aren't far from getting back to the level they were at. Neymar and Messi are just too much.

Bold Tone

Tactics wrote:
Interesting Tata chose to start Messi on the right, his predecessors didn't have the balls to play him away from the centre. As soon as I saw the line-up I wondered whether Messi would track Madrid's left winger (Ronaldo) deep into his half when Barca lose the ball, or Madrid are on the attack down that side, but he really didn't do it, he stayed far up the pitch, it was mostly one of the Barca CMs (or Cesc on 1 on 2 ocassions) that tracked back. Worst I have seen Messi play.

Barca countered this by making Alves stay back more than normal.
They will get better as it is clear that Messi is still unfit.
Glad Madrid lost. Have always disliked CRonaldo from his manu days and his shit performance pleased me.
Also, RMs addition of spuds players has made me prefer the Barcunts to them.

Volante

Tactics

I probably worded it wrongly, not done as in they are a crap side, but I meant we won't see that super dominant side that they were under Guardiola any time soon.

Agreed on Busquets. He's much more than a DM. I have seen him excel in the Xavi role, and I also think he's much more suited to that role than Cesc Fabregas. Busquets will likely go down as a great of the game. When people talk about Barca over the years, they only mention Messi, Xavi, and Iniesta, but Busquets should be mentioned alongside them. He's that good. Super footballer.

Tactics

Bold Tone wrote:
Tactics wrote:
Interesting Tata chose to start Messi on the right, his predecessors didn't have the balls to play him away from the centre. As soon as I saw the line-up I wondered whether Messi would track Madrid's left winger (Ronaldo) deep into his half when Barca lose the ball, or Madrid are on the attack down that side, but he really didn't do it, he stayed far up the pitch, it was mostly one of the Barca CMs (or Cesc on 1 on 2 ocassions) that tracked back. Worst I have seen Messi play.

Barca countered this by making Alves stay back more than normal.
They will get better as it is clear that Messi is still unfit.
Glad Madrid lost. Have always disliked CRonaldo from his manu days and his shit performance pleased me.
Also, RMs addition of spuds players has made me prefer the Barcunts to them.

Interesting, I didn't notice it.

kamikaze

Volante wrote:

what's so incredible about that?

Tony Montana

Bold Tone wrote:
Hugo Sanchez now looks like a fake be-wigged Tom Jones

Tony Montana wrote:
I find the English media always go on about Spanish technique and German technique but they always gloss over Italians.

Italy absolutely murdered us with higher technical ability and then they took Germany apart in the next round.

Quietly very very solid.

TBF to the English media, recently, the Spaniards have beaten the Italians due to this higher technical ability!

But they also beat Germany yet the media always bangs on about Germany. I like their systems too, especially as their football is more similar to ours, it's just weird that Italy flies under the radar somewhat.

Volante

Not much, he does manage to take 2 players out of the game though. Busquets always gets out of pressure well with good trickery, amazing player.

Bold Tone

If Xavi or Iniesta did that, it wouldn't be a highlight.

Captain

To be fair, Busquet is the boss in the pocket.

Bold Tone

As a DM, i agree that is fantastic but as a Xavi replacement, i am not too sure.

Tony Montana wrote:
Bold Tone wrote:
Hugo Sanchez now looks like a fake be-wigged Tom Jones

TBF to the English media, recently, the Spaniards have beaten the Italians due to this higher technical ability!

But they also beat Germany yet the media always bangs on about Germany. I like their systems too, especially as their football is more similar to ours, it's just weird that Italy flies under the radar somewhat.

You may have a point about Germany as i wouldn't say they are technically superior to Italy but i freely admit to not being the best judge in this case as i am biased against both.

GaelForce

Thought watching this that the two German clubs are way ahead again. Really hope we can get a couple of Dortmund-Barca games in the CL this season.

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