The current top four is Arsenal, Liverpool, Spurs, Everton.

That excludes all of the current so-called Big Three. To what extent is it going to / can it possibly stay that way?

Out of the current four only us or Spurs will make it.

As shit as United have been they're still a good side and will recover, not to the extent that they'll finish first but I can't see them any worse than 3rd.

I'm easily led, but I currently think both us and Spurs will make it. One of the "big three" is going to get cut down to size.

I also think us and Spurs will be there, United wont make top four this season unless they buy some world class players in January.

Don't think the end of season table will look vastly different to previous seasons. United will be back. They've had a dodgy start and are still getting used to the new manager and coaching staff but it's United. Come May they won't be far off the title, if not first. Certainly in the top 2. I would also expect City to start to gel soon enough, they have too much quality to not be in the top 4. I don't think Liverpool will keep up this form all season so the other should be 2 of us, Chelsea or Spurs. We should be ok if we avoid further long term injuries to key players such as Ramsey, Ozil, Mertesacker and Giroud. And if we sign a striker in January at least at Giroud level to rotate with him.

As for the poll, I guess us and possibly Spurs. Don't think there will be many points between 3rd and 6th though.

Big four will be the same as always.
Rodgers is a shit manager and no one ever went broke underestimating Spurs.

Don't think Liverpool can make it either, they're relying on a squad with a lot of mediocre characters, although they're competing on fewer fronts that the sides around them.

City will definitely be in there, and I'd have them favourites for the title.

But United aren't getting bad results while looking good - they're getting bad results while looking like they don't have a plan and are old and feeble. I think they're in real trouble. A long layoff for Van Persie or Rooney and they certainly are.

As for us, I'm confident we'll get top four at the moment, but it could all change pretty quickly.

Chelsea and Man Utd will be in the top 4.

Man City are most prone to getting chucked out but Spurs will always be Spurs.

Fully expect Arsenal, Chelsea, Manchester city, and Manchester United to be top 4,

Liverpool 5th, and Spurs 6th.

Think you lot have Uniteditis. Without Fergie they're still giants, but not incumbents for the title.

Moyes will have £50m to spend in winter though, according to the latest rumahz. If he doesn't spend the month with his dick caught in his fly again.

Can't see more than one change. Either us or United are going to slip.

United resurgence will depend on three players hitting top form: Rooney,RVP and Kagawa (if played in the right position). The rest of the squad are very average.

Kagawa's hardly going to hit form without the manager's backing. IMO. The other two can probably be relied upon if uninjured.

I genuinely think Man U could finish outside the top four. Just have a feeling. I personally don't think I could take Moyes seriously after being managed by someone like Ferguson. Ferguson was Manchester United. A few players aside they're such an average team and ageing rapidly.

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Kagawa's hardly going to hit form without the manager's backing. IMO. The other two can probably be relied upon if uninjured.

Rooneys form could drop off again at any time. He's not even playing all that well, just hitting in free kicks. I think they might finish outside the top 4 anyway. They really don't look like a side about to string a run of form together.

Doh, answered the poll before reading the post. Thought you meant how many of last season's top four will make it. Think the answer to that is three, and us and Spurs will be in the CL next season.

You have to expect United, City and Chelsea to sort themselves out eventually but that might not be enough, none of them are exceptional teams.

The top four will be the same teams. Only thing that will be shuffled is the internal ranking. Spurs, Liverpool and Everton will all be on the outside when everything is said and done.

Made the same mistake as Gilles. Anyway, Everton won't be in the top four come the end of the season. One of Liverpool or Tottenham might, very much doubt both.

United may eventually sort themselves out but it might be too late by then, certainly too late for the title. They've already dropped 11 points this year compared to 25 in the whole of last season. I still fancy them to make the top four but Tottenham and Liverpool have made a great start so they'll need to turn things around quickly.

City will be up there. Not sure about Chelsea, could go either way.

I reckon 2 of the current teams will make it. Hopefully we're too experienced to fall out of it but so far Liverpool and Spurs look a lot more professional than previous years. The big three aren't just gonna walk in. But this is based on the last six games and United and Chelsea have had harder games than us as have Spurs actually.

One of those seasons where I don't have a fucking clue about what's going to happen...love it.