Rex wrote:
Tactics, you really are over rating Gundogan. He is a good player but not 'special'. Özil is special - Gundogan is not. He is slightly better than Ramsey and Wilshere, that's it. I back both our boys to surpass him within 2 years, but not if we are signing someone ahead of them. He IS also physically weak. No two ways about it
Can you name a better CM in Europe under the age of 25?
He's got some set of qualities which only a select few posses, such as his ability to play quality passes that turn over midfield with BOTH feet, ability to dribble in tight spaces, vision of the game etc Do you really believe he's only 'good'?
Gundogan's ceiling is way higher than Ramsey's IMO. Ramsey is developing into a very good player, but I can't see him developing into a world's top 10 player. Gundogan and Wilshere can both reach the highest level as far CM go, I'm talking Xavi, Iniesta, Pirlo level here. However this is actually irrelevant because they can all play together; a midfield of Ramsey-Gundogan-Wilshere looks very tasty to me.
You keep on saying he's weak but you have nothing to back it up, did you see him against City for example? He pissed all over them. His physique is very similar to Arteta's - not imposing, but very good upper body strengths. Settle this discussion once and for all, and provide example of instances where he was out-muscled off the ball.
