Wilshere wrote:

Vela against Lyon. He scored two.

And yet we still have Bendtner.

He honestly got more talent than Chicharito.

Beautiful goal - love seeing a player just charge ahead with one thing in mind....reminds me of Pato's goal vs Barca a few years back.

Predictions.

Group A: Man United, Shakhtar Donetsk, Bayer Leverkusen, Real Sociedad

Group B: Real Madrid, Juventus, Galatasaray, FC Copenhagen

Group C: Benfica, PSG, Olympiakos, Anderlecht

Group D: Bayern Munich, CSKA Moscow, Man City, Viktoria Plzen

Group E: Chelsea, Schalke, FC Basel, Steaua Bucharest

Group F: Arsenal, Marseille, Borussia Dortmund, Napoli

Group G: FC Porto, Atletico Madrid, Zenit St Petersburg, Austria Vienna

Group H: Barcelona, AC Milan, Ajax, Celtic

Moyes has no (nearly no - think Everton made qualifying once?) CL experience, but he'll probably have Ferguson breathing down his neck telling him what to do anyway.

Burnwinter wrote:

Moyes has no (nearly no - think Everton made qualifying once?) CL experience, but he'll probably have Ferguson breathing down his neck telling him what to do anyway.

Came 4th one year, got into the qualifying round and lost against Villareal (I think).

I think they will struggle against Shakthar and Bayer. Sociedad is not easy as well. They were super lucky last year with their group matches. Overall I do think they are in the hardest group?

It's not easy but they should still comfortably make it through. It's an advantage for them that there are no whipping boys in the group as it means the 3 other sides will most likely take points off each other.

Not a chance that's the hardest group though, both Dortmund and Napoli piss all over Bayer and Sociedad and I don't think there is a huge difference between Shakthar and Marseille.

Still got the little chip.

otfgoon wrote:

I don't think there is a huge difference between Shakthar and Marseille.

Err 3,000 klms difference tbf.

6 days later

Celtic's home record in the champions league.
Celtic park ain't a walk in the park.

Can't get my head around this.

Less than two passes per minute but they had five shots on target. Think that says more about Barcelona's performance than it does about Celtic's.

Might sound odd but I'd also say if you've got 89% of the ball you're doing something wrong.

They have the best atmosphere of any stadium on UCL nights. Literally 2nd to none.

otfgoon wrote:

Might sound odd but I'd also say if you've got 89% of the ball you're doing something wrong.

Agree. Wenger did explain why it is the case, when you dominate that much, you pin your opponents back too much and that is a negative effect.

No room left to exploit - defenders locked in and what not.