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Official Injury Thread 2013/14

y va marquer

Actually, I didn't know Chambers was injured.
He's not is he?

Irishgunner

Not injured, merely suspended after 5 yellows.

y va marquer

Ah, right, forgot about that.

invisibleman18

Fucking hell. Same shit every season. What was the point of that Forsythe character? Is he as pointless as Dick Law?

lorddulaarsenal

Anyone worried that unavailable line up may give Bean ideas about a new formation?

Gazza M

We still have enough quality to get results, especially once theo is back on deck. Injuries arent an excuse at this point

Bold Tone

Wenger will have to utilise more of the squad players like Podolski, Rosicky and Joel Campbell.

evoh

Wenger lies about the state of Arsenal to outsiders, quelle suprise.

invisibleman18

How long until Wenger comes out with that old line that "we couldn't have planned for injuries."

Gazza M

It's annoying that ozil is usually the last one subbed, or never subbed at all. He never makes the difference late in games anyway, and the premier league is more intense than la liga. He should be coming off at 65-70 minutes in every match, but wenger keeps always keeps him in

Don Pacifico

Two things:

If there's any part of the pitch where we do have cover, it's AM. Ozil has played most of this season on LW anyway.
Our creativity has hardly been awe-inspiring so far this season and Ozil in particular has been disappointing for the most part. Can't see how losing him will make us much worse than how we are at the moment.

Time for the likes of Santi, Sanchez, Ox (all of whom have been arguably better than Mesut so far), Podolski and Campbell to step up.

Rex

Well, Giroud's injury was pretty hard to plan for; I mean, how can you possibly prepare for someone being hit by the ball and his leg breaks? Also, Debuchy being out for three months from basically tripping over himself is pretty hard to account for. But, but, Arteta and Ramsey suffering from muscle injuries! They certainly must have been over played after a short pre-season! Eh, no. Full pre-season, RESTED in the CC so they had a full week between games...

Truth is - all those injuries are freak injuries, and Özil seems to have picked up a knock. These things happen in games. We have a few other injuries that possibly could have been prevented, I don't know.

As for Wenger, I can't see myself why he would purposefully lie about recovery time. If there was something to gain from it, why not, but there really is nothing to gain by being misleading here. Most likely, he is just repeating what his medical staff is telling him. My two cents anyway.

y va marquer

I agree with everything that you said there Rex.
I think that's the second time this year that it's happened 🙂

Klaus

And last time the agreeable post was just a single dot!

Rex

Don't try to steal my thunder, Klaus!!

y va marquer

😆

evoh

Maybe Wenger needs to think about tailoring training to players and their state of recovery.

RvP took on his own trainer for the last 18 months here and managed to stay fit. Perhaps we are simply bunging players together and getting them on these timed drill and pylometric exercises when that isn't the right think for their body at that time. I'd like to see us have someone in and look at it from and outside perspective, those at the club are too involved to make a judgement on what they have been doing right and wrong recently.

On the note of PLANNING for injuries. It has been stated before that alot of injuries occur when players are tired and the muscles activate properly to keep joint in place and with the case of hamstrings can just go through the buildup of fatigue. The fact that Debuchy's ankle went over nothign says to me that there is an issue with his muscles recruiting around the joint, why would a seasoned pro fall under the weight of very little otherwise? He had certainly played a large number of games over summer and before, getting all the minutes for us as well. Arteta is old and perhaps needs more rest as he has had problems before with picking up injuries. Ramsey could well have built up fatigue over playing every minute of our games outside the carling cup. Particularly when you see his performance dropping off that may suggest he wasn't in tip-top physical shape. Same goes for Ozil. Giroud is a freak impact incident, but the others are not contact related, therefore there is something going on that we didn't deal with.

invisibleman18

I meant planning in terms of knowing that injuries will happen and having a squad to cope with them, rather than planning for a freak leg break. For Giroud, this would have meant having another striker in the squad. Thank heavens it happened the game before the window ended so we were able to scramble to do a last minute deal. Where would we be now if it happened the game after?

Luckily in the case of Ozil "we have 10 players who want to play in the middle" and he shouldn't be starting for us at the moment anyway given his form.

Bold Tone

evoh wrote:
Maybe Wenger needs to think about tailoring training to players and their state of recovery.

RvP took on his own trainer for the last 18 months here and managed to stay fit. Perhaps we are simply bunging players together and getting them on these timed drill and pylometric exercises when that isn't the right think for their body at that time ...

Good point but it would be incredible if we didn't already do a little bit of that.
Parma, in 1992, devised special exercises for Asprilla to help him bulk up.
That was more than 20 years ago so there is no way we cannot be doing a lot more.

MistaT

I thought Ramsey looked sluggish and beefed up (not sure if muscle or fat) from the start of the season. Didn't have his sprightly ways about him.

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