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Suarez: the great moral dilemma of our time

Biggus

Yep, and that includes you Gurgen.😆

Captain

From the available information, our bid should basically loosen Liverpool's grip on Suarez and permit a move for something not too far from the 40m already offered. There's no release clause as such.

Don Pacifico

Captain wrote:
From the available information, our bid should basically loosen Liverpool's grip on Suarez and permit a move for something not too far from the 40m already offered. There's no release clause as such.

Maybe I've missed something but why do you believe that?

Bold Tone

How would you feel if the spuds came in late and used their Bale money to gazump our offer?
I say this as i feel he has now burnt his bridges with Liverpool and it's just a question of where.

est

He wouldn't go to Spurs though.

Gurgen

lagos wrote:
Gurgen wrote:
That is absolutely ridiculous reasoning.

No lawyer worth a damn would make such a clause ambiguous on purpose if it wasn't in the interest of his client.

Well what lawyer worth his salt would agree to a cluse that everyone seems to accept in ambiguos? What is the point of the clause? What is so hard in writing in "in the event that Liverpool fail to qualify for the champions league, the club is obligated to accept offers above £Xm if the client wishes to leave"

I don't know. Have you seen the contract? I don't know what's in there.

Captain

Don Pacifico wrote:
Captain wrote:
From the available information, our bid should basically loosen Liverpool's grip on Suarez and permit a move for something not too far from the 40m already offered. There's no release clause as such.

Maybe I've missed something but why do you believe that?

From what Taylor said; he mentioned that there is an obligation to negotiate in good faith. That's where the ambiguity that everyone keeps mentioning comes in because it's not really enforceable but it also isn't pointless.

What I said in regards to the eventual fee is my personal opinion of what it could mean. It's certainly not black and white.

GaelForce

Looks like the Telegraph story is that the PFA have agreed with Liverpool's interpretation of the contract.

FantasticMrFox

Fuck.

Captain

Eh?

We already knew that two hours ago. :hmm:

Bold Tone

That has been my interpretation of the situation all along as Suarez would have been more forceful in his actions if the wording was in his favour.

Timbob

Doesn't make much difference.

CitizenNo9

Gurgen wrote:
lagos wrote:
Well what lawyer worth his salt would agree to a cluse that everyone seems to accept in ambiguos? What is the point of the clause? What is so hard in writing in "in the event that Liverpool fail to qualify for the champions league, the club is obligated to accept offers above £Xm if the client wishes to leave"

I don't know. Have you seen the contract? I don't know what's in there.

Gordon Taylor implied he has seen it and he says it's ambiguous. I'm sorry to attack your profession if you are a Lawyer if it's any consolation I worked in finance and we aren't liked very much either. it doesn't mean everyone is a scumbag but there are enough scumbags within for the profession to be rightly treated with cynicism. I was only being flippant to begin with but I stand by the underlying message; Some professions are as a whole more unscrupulous than others but I have learnt never to automatically assume that my Lawyer, doctor, fund manager, broker, estate agent etc etc is working completely on my behalf. If Suarez has questioned his Lawyer, sought a second opinion he won't be in this shit!

Bottom line is Client (who probably can't read the contract) wanted a clause and assumed he had a clause, Lawyer did not put in said clause. Any 2 bob lawyer can write an employment contract, Why bother inserting any type of clause if it doesn't hold up?

goon

Yeah. Sure.

CitizenNo9

I call BS!!!

I know this is water under the bridge but surely last year we must have anticipated we would have this kind of money. If so why let RVP leave?

Ray

He isn't worth that.

Ricky1985

Klaus wrote:
This Is Anfield
@thisisanfield

Telegraph will apparently how more Luis Suarez news at 10pm this evening.

Transfer request?

est wrote:
Klaus wrote:
Maybe he's bitten someone again.

Hope it's Rodgers.

goon

😆

Guardian also going with Suarez training alone. I think it's our move now, I reckon a few more million and an add on or two and he'll be ours. Lets get this done.

ebouefan

Anyone fancy Michu for 25 mil if Suarez is priced out?

goon

Michu would be an expensive flop I reckon. We'd be better off going for a highly talented prospect.

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