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Suarez: the great moral dilemma of our time

goon

Those links (except for the highly reliable tribalfootball/daily star) suggest Madrid hiked up the asking price to 40m. Hardly pennies.

Timbob

It's the principle too. They asked for one price then changed their minds at the last minute. You don't deal with cowboys.

CitizenNo9

Look at the dates, there were stories all over about a 3m difference long before Napoli joined the race. The deal had already hit an impasse long before Napoli, whether it was valuation or waiting for a new manager to sanction the deal who knows but no one spoke about 40m till napoli hijacked the deal. the story iwas that madrid had given permision and we had agreed terms, remember all the comments from his Dad? why would a club give permision to speak to their player if you are 15m apart. Lets not forget that the suarez onterest was initiallly thought to be a way of forcing madrid to complete the deal. Everything is based on rumours but Let's not try and rewrite the rumour history, go to the Higuain thread and track events/ rumours as they unfolded

Gunner89

At the end of the day the club charge top dollar for sales but don't stump up the same for purchases.

Captain

lagos wrote:
Look at the dates, there were stories all over about a 3m difference long before Napoli joined the race. The deal had already hit an impasse long before Napoli, whether it was valuation or waiting for a new manager to sanction the deal who knows but no one spoke about 40m till napoli hijacked the deal. the story iwas that madrid had given permision and we had agreed terms, remember all the comments from his Dad? why would a club give permision to speak to their player if you are 15m apart. Lets not forget that the suarez onterest was initiallly thought to be a way of forcing madrid to complete the deal. Everything is based on rumours but Let's not try and rewrite the rumour history, go to the Higuain thread and track events/ rumours as they unfolded

Way back when Juventus were interested, the Madrid guy had already made it clear that Higuain would be expensive. Whatever games they played in between, it was roughly the price that he went for that was originally mentioned.

y va marquer

From the "expert" John Cross

Arsene Wenger is determined not to raise Arsenal’s £40m bid for Luis Suarez – even if it means the transfer going to the wire.
The whole deal hinges on the £40m clause in Suarez’s contract withthe Uruguayan’s advisers adamant that it allows him to leave Liverpool.
Suarez is keen on Arsenal and wants to speak to them about a potential transfer but it is believed he still harbours hopes that Real Madrid will come in despite their declaration that they are not interested.

He also claims Suarez's people have sought legal advice as they believe we have activated the clause.

:hmm:
At this stage I just don't want us to get done over by Liverpool or to have all our resources focused on this deal for weeks on end.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/arsenals-luis-suarez-transfer-bid-2102816#.UfdH361CKJ0.twitter

Burnwinter

All made up as usual.

What kind of insider knowledge would you have to have to know for a certainty that Wenger intended to stick at £40m?

There would only be three or four people on the planet with that certainty, if it were true. He's not going to go telling the physio or the bootboy what he really thinks, so they can leak it to John Cross.

Gazza M

we'll keep the powder dry lads. you know it makes sense.

Timbob

Clearly the club thinks this clause is significant, so I guess there will be a bit of wrangling until we know for sure what it means.

Biggus

Gazza M wrote:
we'll keep the powder dry lads. you know it makes sense.

Yeah, dry as a dead dingoes donger.

Rex

I wouldn't say it is unthinkable that someone associated with Suarez is stupid enough to think it is a release clause but it really isn't. However, a binding agreement doesn't have to in writing. If Liverpool led camp Suarez to think that it indeed was a release clause, which is the only thing that makes sense to me, then it should still hold water. May take the FA or CAS to rule on it though.

I hope Liverpool is right...

Qwiss

Timothy wrote:
It's the principle too. They asked for one price then changed their minds at the last minute. You don't deal with cowboys.

Yeah let's get Suarez instead. 😉

Biggus

Well technically he's a gaucho.
A dirty stinking racist spitting cheating gaucho.

Clrnc

qs! wrote:
Timothy wrote:
It's the principle too. They asked for one price then changed their minds at the last minute. You don't deal with cowboys.

Yeah let's get Suarez instead. 😉

It make sense, but if Liverpool now attempt to do a Real Madrid we are fucked.

Timbob

Rex wrote:
I wouldn't say it is unthinkable that someone associated with Suarez is stupid enough to think it is a release clause but it really isn't.

Surprised they let you look at the contract tbf.

Gurgen

There more I think about this, the more I feel Suarez is overrated, the wrong player for us and we would be absolutely insane to spend this kind of money on him.

Qwiss

Clrnc wrote:
qs! wrote:
Yeah let's get Suarez instead. 😉

It make sense, but if Liverpool now attempt to do a Real Madrid we are fucked.

Different situations. Can Liverpool afford not to take our offer? It all depends on whether or not someone else comes in for Suarez. If they don't then we shouldn't bid much higher. Do Liverpool really want to be left with an angry Suarez or would they prefer £40+m?

marv3llous

Gurgen wrote:
There more I think about this, the more I feel Suarez is overrated, the wrong player for us and we would be absolutely insane to spend this kind of money on him.

Welcome to my world. I watch (or 'i see' would be more correct) alot of Liverpool matches because my cousin supports them and i really wouldnt pay above £30m for the fucker. The amount of times he dribbles head first into defences or the amount of time he doesnt play the right pass will do peoples head in once he comes here.

I would have paid £32,5m for Higuain like Napoli did and gazump them on wages. Or i would actually buy two £20m players who may have lower quality instead - a winger (a la Bernard) to replace Gerv and a proper ST to battle it out with Giroud (a la Dzeko),

Irishgunner

Dzeko would cost more than 20m, especially in the current market.

Timbob

And Bernard isn't good enough to give us much at this point in his career. Also don't see why anyone would pay more for Higuain than Suarez, when Suarez is clearly the better player.

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