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Kroenke/Gazidis/Wenger out!

Meatwad

i love the way he speaks slowly so that you can think he's thoughtful. shit is gold.

y va marquer

Burnwinter wrote:
I don't think anyone's that invested in the debate, I just find it odd that people are so quick to jump on Adams' back.

He was a pretty exemplary professional as a player, despite his off field issues, and it's not exactly unusual for someone to have a few concerns about the way the club's been run of late.

Agreed.
Doesn't bother me when Adams or Wright go off on one.
I wouldn't necessarily agree with what they say all of the time but it's like they're "family" so they have the right.

As for Adams thinking he should be on the board - give a man a statue and naturally he's going to believe he has status.
Would people be as dismissive of Henry?

Irishgunner

y va marquer wrote:
Burnwinter wrote:
I don't think anyone's that invested in the debate, I just find it odd that people are so quick to jump on Adams' back.

He was a pretty exemplary professional as a player, despite his off field issues, and it's not exactly unusual for someone to have a few concerns about the way the club's been run of late.

Would people be as dismissive of Henry?

I wouldn't be as dismissive, but I don't think he'd deserve it either.

I could see Henry performing the role better than Adams, but I wouldn't want a French chairman. The Americans are bad enough.

Mirth

banduan wrote:
Well that escalated quickly.

😆

If the likes of Adams/Wright/Henry ever want to influence their respective clubs by going down the Bobby Charlton/Beckenbauer route into the board room then they need to achieve something beyond their football career.

Anyway, Adams distanced himself from the top brass of the club a long time ago.

goon

Burnwinter wrote:
His status can be defended on the same basis that Wenger's is defended - he was a great winner for us who clearly always had the club at heart.

No one is questioning his status.

Rohit

Burnwinter wrote:
I don't think anyone's that invested in the debate, I just find it odd that people are so quick to jump on Adams' back.

He was a pretty exemplary professional as a player, despite his off field issues, and it's not exactly unusual for someone to have a few concerns about the way the club's been run of late.

I think you are holding onto Capi's analogy a bit too hard.

Adams is only one of 3 (or is it 4 now with Bergkamp) men to be commemorated with a statue outside the stadium.

He is highly respected, loved and remembered fondly. No one is maligning him for his opinions and concerns about the club. He clearly knows where he stands with Arsenal fans.

It's also unbecoming of a player of his stature then to use the media (I think that is what he did) to sound off to the board on his rejection.

It wasn't a coach's/ manager's job that he was ignored for.

No one doubts his love for the club but right now he doesn't qualify for the position he was aspiring for.

invisibleman18

General Mirth wrote:
banduan wrote:
Well that escalated quickly.

😆

If the likes of Adams/Wright/Henry ever want to influence their respective clubs by going down the Bobby Charlton/Beckenbauer route into the board room then they need to achieve something beyond their football career.

What did Bobby Charlton achieve beyond his playing career that qualifed him for a directors role?

asajoseph

I doubt Adams would have said what he did if the new guy had any credibility.

Captain

Keswick has alot more credibility than Adams.

goon

asajoseph wrote:
I doubt Adams would have said what he did if the new guy had any credibility.

Former Directorships:

Anglo American PLC (1995 – 2001)
Bank of England (1993 – 2001)
The Edinburgh Investment Trust plc (1992 – 2001)
IMI PLC (1994 – 2003)
Investec Bank plc (2000 – 2010)
Investec PLC (2002 – 2010)
Persimmon PLC (1984 – 2006)
E Oppenheimer & Sons (1993 – 2013

Has plenty of experience outside the club.

Captain

Been on the board for over seven years, too.

On the face of things, Keswick is a good and sensible appointment. The next step is to add a couple of faces.

Irishgunner

Captain wrote:
Been on the board for over seven years, too.

On the face of things, Keswick is a good and sensible appointment. The next step is to add a couple of faces.

Usmanov.

It's just petty to not give him a seat, really lacks class imo.

Klaus

Like fuck it does.

Biggus

Captain wrote:
On the face of things, Keswick is a good and sensible appointment.

😆 The sort of dynamic and long term forward planning thats needed to guide the club into the next season.

Irishgunner

Klaus wrote:
Like fuck it does.

He's our second largest shareholder, he should have a place on the board. Regardless of what anyone thinks of him.

Biggus

A plague on both their houses!

Captain

Meh, it's a non-executive role as far as I can tell. Just needs a person with proven management experience and good judgement which is what Keswick's CV suggests.

Mirth

invisibleman18 wrote:
General Mirth wrote:
😆

If the likes of Adams/Wright/Henry ever want to influence their respective clubs by going down the Bobby Charlton/Beckenbauer route into the board room then they need to achieve something beyond their football career.

What did Bobby Charlton achieve beyond his playing career that qualifed him for a directors role?

I have no real context to offer but wiki says: He joined Wigan Athletic as a director, and was briefly caretaker manager there in 1983. He then spent some time playing in South Africa. He also built up several businesses in areas such as travel, jewellery and hampers, and ran soccer schools in the UK, the US, Canada, Australia and China.

Although wiki also goes on to say his appointment was essentially just to pacify supporters.

Captain

Bobby Charlton isn't on the board of united. He has some sort of unspecified director role, mostly an ambassadorial thing from readily available information.

asajoseph

otfgoon wrote:
asajoseph wrote:
I doubt Adams would have said what he did if the new guy had any credibility.

Former Directorships:

Anglo American PLC (1995 – 2001)
Bank of England (1993 – 2001)
The Edinburgh Investment Trust plc (1992 – 2001)
IMI PLC (1994 – 2003)
Investec Bank plc (2000 – 2010)
Investec PLC (2002 – 2010)
Persimmon PLC (1984 – 2006)
E Oppenheimer & Sons (1993 – 2013

Has plenty of experience outside the club.

So did Hill-Wood, and the guy's regarded as a cunt by pretty much every Arsenal fan out there. It's a case of assuming guilt by association - probably unfair, but understandable.

Find someone with the same CV who's not Peter Hill-Wood's bezzie mate, and it's a different story, but nobody wanted another 5 years of Hill-Wood, and this seems like the next worst option.

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