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Clement Grenier

Don Pacifico

I find this discussion rather shallow and pedantic.

Biggus

JazzG wrote:
Biggus wrote:
Hehheh its our first instinctive reaction whenever a mediocre French player is been scouted out by our mediocre French ex-player.
We fear the worst.

Wasn't Koscielny scouted by Giles?

And he wasn't exactly a roaring success in his first two seasons was he?
He's only starting to come good now then he'll be sold.
A pattern we've seen before, thats why I'm not too down on Giroud or ever Gervais who I expect after being given a long training in our first team will turn into decent players (and be sold).
This is the way things are........

Mirth

He was very good last season - better than this year

asajoseph

So why are you even in any thread, saying anything, about any player who plays outside the premier league? The most I reckon any UK fan watches of any team outside the PL is maybe 4-5 games a season. In fact, I'd be staggered if anyone here had sat through more than 6-7 Aston Villa games this season working out exactly how great / awful Benteke is.

I've watched Grenier maybe 4-5 times this year. Granted, that's nowhere near as much as I obsessively pore over every minute every Arsenal player plays, but it's enough to make an impression, and I reckon form an opinion too. Fair enough, it's not much, but given that it now seems to chime with what every L1 pundit seems to say about him as well, and the Lyon fans that YVM seems to have found, I'll stick to it thanks.

y va marquer

Biggus wrote:
JazzG wrote:
Wasn't Koscielny scouted by Giles?

And he wasn't exactly a roaring success in his first two seasons was he?
He's only starting to come good now then he'll be sold.
A pattern we've seen before, thats why I'm not too down on Giroud or ever Gervais who I expect after being given a long training in our first team will turn into decent players (and be sold).
This is the way things are........

Kos was only really iffy in his first season and just for a brief period last season.
He won't be sold anytime soon.
No big money in defenders.
I actually think Gervinho might be sold to a French club this summer.

Timbob

[quote='asajoseph'']So why are you even in any thread, saying anything, about any player who plays outside the premier league? The most I reckon any UK fan watches of any team outside the PL is maybe 4-5 games a season.[/quote]

I say very little about players I've not seen plenty of. As I've said, to do otherwise is stupid IMHO.

I've watched Grenier maybe 4-5 times this year. Granted, that's nowhere near as much as I obsessively pore over every minute every Arsenal player plays, but it's enough to make an impression, and I reckon form an opinion too. Fair enough, it's not much, but given that it now seems to chime with what every L1 pundit seems to say about him as well, and the Lyon fans that YVM seems to have found, I'll stick to it thanks.

I don't have a problem with L1 pundits or Lyon fans' opinions.

But if you've watched Grenier 4-5 times this season I don't know what has so offended you about my original statement- that I have no time for the opinions of people who haven't seen the player? Clearly doesn't apply to you. Source of confusion on my part was that you said yesterday you knew very little about Grenier and had only seen him a couple of times (which I assumed to be the Europa League tie against Spurs when he came on as a very late sub in one of the games).

asajoseph

Sorry Tim, took it too personally. That's why I deleted my last post, which sounded pretty asinine.

I'm probably unduly harsh on him & overly strident in my opinion anyway, given that our less than glittering recent record of signing L1-based attackers has, um, left its scars!

JazzG

Biggus wrote:
And he wasn't exactly a roaring success in his first two seasons was he?
He's only starting to come good now then he'll be sold.
A pattern we've seen before, thats why I'm not too down on Giroud or ever Gervais who I expect after being given a long training in our first team will turn into decent players (and be sold).
This is the way things are........

First season like many foreign players struggled with the pace and physicality of the league but settled in well after that. Last season he finished strong the season before was our best defender by far.

As for him being sold, stick your whinging in this thread 😉 http://www.onemoreinthetolly.com/Thread-Kroenke-Gazidis-Wenger-out

y va marquer

He did score another blinding free kick yesterday.

Klaus

Biggus wrote:
JazzG wrote:
Wasn't Koscielny scouted by Giles?

And he wasn't exactly a roaring success in his first two seasons was he?

Kos wasn't a success last season?

Timbob

asajoseph wrote:
Sorry Tim, took it too personally. That's why I deleted my last post, which sounded pretty asinine.

I'm probably unduly harsh on him & overly strident in my opinion anyway, given that our less than glittering recent record of signing L1-based attackers has, um, left its scars!

Don't be.

And yes, that's very understandable. I certainly don't trust Arsene like I used to in the transfer market.

lorddulaarsenal

His technique looks top notch. That cross was clever.

We could use a mid who can shoot from distance

Qwiss

A few games, a bit of reading around and you get the general idea on a player pretty clearly. Add to that our knowledge of how Arsene conducts business and its a fairly well informed prediction that if we sign this lad he's not going to come in and immediately take the league by storm. I don't think that could be classed as too big an assumption.

Timbob

But you can be a good player and an excellent signing without taking the league by storm.

Qwiss

Well again he doesn't seem like a signing that would the sort of immediate impact most fans want to see in this window. The patience for players to develop is pretty much worn thin at this point. As is the patience for "decent" signings. We need quality and we need it immediately.

lorddulaarsenal

http://lefrenchgooner.wordpress.com/

Armor

Seen him compared to Oscar by someone else too. I think he's the style of player we need but unless he's good enough to be a starter i don't want him.

Mirth

Been called up by the French NT now

Klaus

I think he looks interesting. It's only based on a few highlight reels though.

Iloveyouarsenewenger

The most striking information in the blog is that he has one year left in his contract. That significantly increases his probability of being signed by us.

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