City did it last year and now PSG this year.
Soon we'll see Chelsea announce a major deal as well and then Wenger and Ghazidis will have even more excuses about how the FFP didn't work.
There were a lot of people saying that FFP is not plausible in the current financial climate considering the loopholes it had. Maybe this is their vindication.
Is there any hope that this works out in our favour? Or for the good of football in general?
PSG will get into trouble for that one.
They'll probably cite the same 'positive trend' bullshit City are doing.
It's too much money. City have been very careful and spread the deals around a few different companies. Platini, however, doesn't really seem to care when it isn't an english team involved.
Reckon people need to relax a bit.
City and PSG are changing their behaviour—that means they're concerned about FFP enforcement. They may well be able to sneak additional cash into their footballing side through this sort of deal but if so, regulations can be changed and loopholes closed. Scrutiny of commercial deals for artificial inflation has already been flagged as a part of enforcement activity.
Also, €150m per season is a vast amount, but that's money that PSG will have to spread throughout the top tier to actually benefit from. We might well end up with an fat chunk of that for the sale of one of our players, as we have with more than one squib gone to City.
Clubs are not truly competing with each other as businesses, since the product is the sport and the leagues, not the clubs. No one club can simply run away with the football market. There's plenty of collective will among the major clubs to put the cramps on 'financial doping'. The likes of City and PSG need UEFA much more than UEFA needs them, and that's why a set of rules like FFP can be contemplated at all.
It will all take time, possibly quite a few years, but expenditure regulation is a normal part of lots of major sports, it's not an unsolvable problem.
Pepe LeFrits wrote:They'll probably cite the same 'positive trend' bullshit City are doing.
As I understand it, the 'positive trend' rule only works out if the trend turns out to be real. Otherwise, you have to pay the piper eventually.
I Am Arsenal Till I Die wrote:City did it last year and now PSG this year.
Soon we'll see Chelsea announce a major deal as well and then Wenger and Ghazidis will have even more excuses about how the FFP didn't work.
There were a lot of people saying that FFP is not plausible in the current financial climate considering the loopholes it had. Maybe this is their vindication.
Indeed, the whole concept of FFP in a world game is flawed if the intention was to somehow make the game "more fair", all it will do swing financial power back from "new money" to "old money" so instead of your Man city's and PSG's we'll have our Real Madrid's and Man Utd's back whats so "fair" about that?
Platini is a slimy con artist politician who wants to appear to be dong something popular by playing on the resentment of fans but this will change nothing.
As for the other pair of turkey's they'll always have plenty of weird bullshit excuses, and theyll be accepted so long as we have so many apathetic plastic supporters.
Pepe LeFrits wrote:Burnwinter wrote:Also, €150m per season is a vast amount, but that's money that PSG will have to spread throughout the top tier to actually benefit from. We might well end up with an fat chunk of that for the sale of one of our players, as we have with more than one squib gone to City.
That's been a real silver lining for us the last 8 years.
Well thats right, those dreaming of a nice cosy Platini/Wengeresque social economic paradise should remember that Arsenal have been among those who have been there to part fools from their gold.
i've seen you and kami keep referring to "plastic fans" because they go to the games and don't call for wenger's head or whatever. how is that plastic? for one they actually go to the games and two we suck, so no one is glory hunting at this point. arsenal fans might be apathetic, but plastic? maybe i don't understand your unique definition because it isn't the common one for plastic. the big positive of this barren run is that it allowed for the vast majority of plastics to fall off the bandwagon.
Good flippin' job that we don't need ffp to work then, isn't it?
My definition of plastic fans are those who treat the games as some sort of social occasion, they're not particularly bothered if we're shit and lose a lot and win nothing, I suppose "part time" would be a better description.
Heres a test, if you were not physically ill/psychologically depressed by our 8-2 mauling at the hands of Fergie & co you're a plastic.
FFP is never going to work. That Chelsea are in talks with Falcao tells you everything you need to know. They broke even last year (or thereabouts), but they spent some serious cheddar over the summer and are about to do more of the same. Chelsea, PSG, and Citeh will spend 100s of millions on lawyers if necessary. And they will stall FFP implementation or just outright win.
Define 'work'.
be adhered to by rogue clubs.
Lawyers won't stall it.
They can totally stall enforcement.
They won't stall it because they run the risk of being suspended for the duration.
If UEFA want ffp to work, it will work; there is no doubt about that.
Just as they have been forceful with racism?
What does that have to do with FFP?
There is little enforcement will or ability at UEFA.
When PSG and Chelsea go to Slaughter & May or Clifford Chance, and those guys hit UEFA with tomes of paperwork, it's on. They'll find a way to go to EU and delay execution of any judgments. The only thing that might stop these clubs is that it will look unseemly to some fans, but there is lots of money and pride at stake here.
