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Wenger is an Idiot

squallkid

kamikaze wrote:
stop trolling and become a squallman 😆

kid, you did a great job showing that wenger was an unbelievable manager until 2005. no one will disagree with you there.

19, 22, 10, 18, 4, 21, 16 - we all know the game has changed because of oil money, but then how has united won 4 league titles, 1 european cup, 3 league cups, 4 community shields and 1 fifa club world cup since 2005? they have no sugar daddy and more debt than us. why/how have we fallen so far behind them? for me, these 7 numbers are the most succinct indictment of wenger's decline as a manager since 2005.

19, 22, 10, 18, 4, 21, 16.

United have a better manager than we do, yes I said it.

I shudder to think of what they could achieve if they didn't have the Glazers' saddling them with debt.

United have always spent big on players even when we were their only competition, Veron, Ferdinand and Rooney to name three. It took Ferguson a while to adjust to Chelsea changing the landscape but credit to him, he adjusted and spent big money on Hargeaves, Anderson, Carrick and Berbatov.

We're behind them because we haven't spent money like they have, we refused to keep our experienced players whereas they kept Scholes, Giggs and Ferdinand, we filled our team with kids and cheap buys while they spent 30 million pounds on a back up striker and 17 million pounds on Anderson who is lucky to star a CC game, we prolonged too long with Almunia and Fabianski while they had Van Der Sar, our commercial deals suck in comparison to theirs.

I'm not sure if that covers all of it so if I've left anything out feel free to correct me.

invisibleman18

squallkid wrote:
We're behind them because we haven't spent money like they have, we refused to keep our experienced players whereas they kept Scholes, Giggs and Ferdinand, we

True, we'd have no doubt let Scholes and Giggs leave for free 6 or 7 years ago had they been ours.

Biggus

I distinctly remember him trying to flog off Bergy to Fulham for a mill, of course Bergy said he wouldn't go to another club he'd just retire.
He was however eventually given another 1 year contract after a masterclass against Everton as I recall and stayed a few more years on 1 year contracts.
What a disgraceful way to treat loyal servant of the club and an absolute legend to boot.

squallkid wrote:
I was 4 when wenger first won the league, watched us regularly from 2002 and I appreciated every living second of it and its because of those days that I still hold hope wenger could get us back to the top.

It's the hope that keeps you alive.

So you were born in 94, and you watched us regularly from 8-11 years when we won our last trophy?
And you're 18 now.

I also started following us when I was 8 because we were champions, I had to wait 18 years before we were champions again, think about that for a minute.

y va marquer

Post Norwich, on being 10 points behind Chelsea

The gap at the top is unpleasant," Wenger said.

It's pretty damn unpleasant alright.

lorddulaarsenal

Think you've ones done your maths wrong biggy. No way is squally 18.

lorddulaarsenal

y va marquer wrote:
Post Norwich, on being 10 points behind Chelsea

The gap at the top is unpleasant," Wenger said.

It's pretty damn unpleasant alright.

Worst still is we knew the gap going into the game

It's also feels like its more unpleasant to him because it attracts questions which are of a nuisance to him rather than it meaning we are far off being in a strong position

Burnwinter

Biggus wrote:
I also started following us when I was 8 because we were champions, I had to wait 18 years before we were champions again, think about that for a minute.

Squallkid is Biggus. A Sisyphean moment, something out of Camus.

Could any thought be more depressing?

lorddulaarsenal

We still have chamakh on the books...

y va marquer

😆
Gawd help us.

Biggus

Alfonso wrote:
'Wenger is an idiot' is a diguised thread for 'Wenger out'. But these concepts and thoughts have become so saturated recently that the thought of him actually leaving has diminished.

I must say I produced the first official 'real critique' thread on A-M which was titled 'Wenger must step up'. That was written in May 2007.

The fact that 5 and half years later we are still writing threads which highlight the same mistakes Wenger was making then speaks volumes.

And even if he stays for another 5 and half years down the line nothing will change.

And in those days even questioning some of Wengers decisions was like questioning did the sun revolve around the earth in the middle ages, you could be burned at the stake and you and I nearly were a few times, I remember they demoted you from TM in a fit of pique but I got you back in. 😉
But then Wenger became quickly more eccentric letting key players go and promoting Gallas to capi culminating in us snatching defeat from the jaws of victory in 08, so our ranks swelled and we were no longer a few malcontents and ne'er do wells but a full blow rebel army.

y va marquer

@wengerknowsbest: Happy birthday? Well, I have had better. I don't normally spend birthdays with fans calling for me to resign.

@wengerknowsbest: I won't resign. I won't resi-ign. I've got all my love to give, for seven and a half million quid. I won't resign...

Anyway, hope he's at least got some plans on how to prevent further pain against Schalke and QPR.
Saw Arteta being interviewed after the game and he seemed very hacked off.

Biggus

Burnwinter wrote:
Biggus wrote:
I also started following us when I was 8 because we were champions, I had to wait 18 years before we were champions again, think about that for a minute.

Squallkid is Biggus. A Sisyphean moment, something out of Camus.

Could any thought be more depressing?

Lucky I didn't have the internet to fry my brains when I was young.

As you are now so once was I, as I am now so shall you be. 😉

Cannon

Shocked that maybe apart from Asa no one really got my post....

Rex

Still an inaccurate and poor post.

Tony Montana

Biggus wrote:
Alfonso wrote:
'Wenger is an idiot' is a diguised thread for 'Wenger out'. But these concepts and thoughts have become so saturated recently that the thought of him actually leaving has diminished.

I must say I produced the first official 'real critique' thread on A-M which was titled 'Wenger must step up'. That was written in May 2007.

The fact that 5 and half years later we are still writing threads which highlight the same mistakes Wenger was making then speaks volumes.

And even if he stays for another 5 and half years down the line nothing will change.

And in those days even questioning some of Wengers decisions was like questioning did the sun revolve around the earth in the middle ages, you could be burned at the stake and you and I nearly were a few times, I remember they demoted you from TM in a fit of pique but I got you back in. 😉
But then Wenger became quickly more eccentric letting key players go and promoting Gallas to capi culminating in us snatching defeat from the jaws of victory in 08, so our ranks swelled and we were no longer a few malcontents and ne'er do wells but a full blow rebel army.

In 2008 we had to reduce it to the "Wenger Loyalists" and the "Wenger skeptics" in the Arsenal-Mania Politics thread.

Asa was the commander with Biggus as second in command.

😆

squallkid

Why does this have to be a discussion though?

Can't I just choose to believe in wenger?

Tam

Course you can. If you believe Wenger is the best man for the job that's completely up to you. Evidence has been staking up against Wenger for a while though and not everyone shares your enthusiasm for the man though. Aside from the history lessons with which we are all too aware of when you try to back him, in general I don't find your posts any more annoying or troll worthy than Biggus'.

Coombs

wish he'd just go away

lorddulaarsenal

He's young and American. See it as a challenge to fix him coombsy

Coombs

I'm afraid of Americans.

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