What is scary is maybe this is our level
yuv wrote: I want Gnabry to start each game from this point on. If only cos he's the only one (bar Art and Caz) who didn't prove he does not deserve it. And - how much worse can it be, anyway?
I want Gnabry to start each game from this point on. If only cos he's the only one (bar Art and Caz) who didn't prove he does not deserve it. And - how much worse can it be, anyway?
Yep. Give him games. The others have proved beyond doubt they aren't up to it
Wenger bingo? I'll predict: We were not patient enough tonight. I must say they defended superbly. We must remain faithful to our style of play. I felt we lacked a little bit of sharpness. After so many games in quick succession we were a little tired. But we have many players coming back from injury and their quality is undeniable. It is up to us to bounce back and show what we are made of.
Coquelin was the best of a really, really bad bunch tonight for me.
Ramsey was, and is, awful. Special mention to Gervinho and Santos for looking like 3rd division players as well.
I didn't think Coquelin was quite as bad as some are making out.
Ramsey, Gervinho and Santos on the other hand were awful.
I just can't see a future for Ramsey at Arsenal. The guy has no position. He doesn't have the attributes to make it as a sitting or box to box midfielder. And he doesn't have the technique or vision to make it as an attacking midfielder. He's the new Denilson.
Patters wrote: " It is up to us to bounce back and show what we are made of."
" It is up to us to bounce back and show what we are made of."
Then someone should tell him - "no need to show what we're made of, you can smell it; and that stuff doesn't bounce".
Coquelin had good and bad moments. Better than Arteta or Ramsey though
Arteta, Cazorla, Kos, Merte, Verm, Gnarbry, Podolski, Gibbs, Wilshere, er, er, ... Cannot even get to eleven top quality players out of squad of twenty five
squallkid wrote: I didn't watch the game so I can't comment on that but right here, we can't let it all go to pieces. The last thing this team needs is a poisonous atmosphere and unfortunately that's what it might turn into. I'm not about to suggest that cheering them on for ninety minutes will turn them into world-beaters, far from it. But calling them "****, ******* useless, headless chickens and saying we should have kept RVP/Fabregas/Henry/Adebayor/Nasri/Clichy/Whoever" isn't going to help matters. All of those players have left and mean nothing to me or Arsenal FC. We have a squad of 25. They are our players They play for our club. Okay, they aren't a team of world beaters, neither will any of them win world player of the year but they are ours and should get our support. Us against the world now.
I didn't watch the game so I can't comment on that but right here, we can't let it all go to pieces.
The last thing this team needs is a poisonous atmosphere and unfortunately that's what it might turn into. I'm not about to suggest that cheering them on for ninety minutes will turn them into world-beaters, far from it. But calling them "****, ******* useless, headless chickens and saying we should have kept RVP/Fabregas/Henry/Adebayor/Nasri/Clichy/Whoever" isn't going to help matters.
All of those players have left and mean nothing to me or Arsenal FC.
We have a squad of 25.
They are our players
They play for our club.
Okay, they aren't a team of world beaters, neither will any of them win world player of the year but they are ours and should get our support.
Us against the world now.
Mate, seriously sometimes it's better to say nothing at all. That is some facile bunch of platitudes straight out of the Classy Gunner playbook.
No one here really hates the players. They hate Wenger and the board for not providing this team with better ones. It's a vain hope but voicing our dissent is more likely to make a difference.
Btw guys 180 mins without a single goalscoring chance created. Whens the last time that happened?
Mertesacker was clearly our best player tonight, and him along with Cazorla are the only ones to come away from this with a decent performance. Santos was extremely poor, but wasn't given any help whatsoever from Podolski who in turn was piss poor himself. As a team we looked clueless, and that is ALL on Wenger.
I'm getting fed up of Vermaelen as well. And I barely even notice him as captain.
We were without a lot of players today but my god that performance was appalling, our midfield did not dominate at all and created nothing up top as well.
asajoseph wrote: Coquelin had good and bad moments. Better than Arteta or Ramsey though
I thought he was the worst of the lot. Well bar Santos. He constantly lost the ball though and his positioning is terrible. He's a headless chicken and a terrible passer.
Bold Tone wrote: Arteta, Cazorla, Kos, Merte, Verm, Gnarbry, Podolski, Gibbs, Wilshere, er, er, ... Cannot even get to eleven top quality players out of squad of twenty five
Ox?
Vermaelen is the most overrated player in a long time BTW.
Oxlade is overrated.
qs! wrote:Vermaelen is the most overrated player in a long time BTW.
Quite clearly the third best centre back at the club.
I agree. Vermaelen is very overrated.
Arteta should be captain.
Wouldn't make the slightest difference if Arteta was captain.
qs! wrote: Bold Tone wrote: Arteta, Cazorla, Kos, Merte, Verm, Gnarbry, Podolski, Gibbs, Wilshere, er, er, ... Cannot even get to eleven top quality players out of squad of twenty five Ox? Vermaelen is the most overrated player in a long time BTW.
Sorry list was very knee-jerk while i was in a severe state of disillusionment so i somehow forgot him though he has been rather disappointing this season so far
