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Arsenal v Schalke, CL - Wednesday 24 Oct, 19h45

yuv

This is reality. Norwich and today are what we really are like.
Really, really poor.

The light in the end of the tunnel is not January, but that there's no way we are making top 4 this year. We'll keep Cazorla and Jack, Ox, Gnabry and perhaps the CBs - and fuck off the lot of them. Just build from scratch.

Jesus - my eyes hurt. I can't believe what I saw. Or rather - I can, cos saturday didn't look like a fluke.

Lukazan

That was truly woeful.

squallkid

Don Pacifico wrote:
squallkid wrote:
Sounds like we've reverted to our early season form of lost season.

This team has no inbetween mode, either brilliant or absolutely awful.

Have we had any brilliant games this season? That's a serious question.

We were good against Liverpool and West Ham but that was down to individuals rather than the collective unit.

I was going to suggest Man City, everyone apart from MAnnone played like Kings in that game

Rohit

180 minutes of football and the opposition keepers have had to only keep out 2 long range shots. We are so toothless.

mags

Hard to judge some of the below average performances of individual players when the team as a unit played poorly....
The one who leads the piss poor performances, however, is Wenger...I hope he gets crucified at the AGM....
Does Kroenke have any idea of what is going on? With HW sitting next to him, pouring in the excuses, I doubt it...Idiots the bunch of them...

Don Pacifico

Kel Varnsen wrote:
Don Pacifico wrote:
He's just young and inconsistent. Has had good games but has also had bad games.

so you see him as a future star? one of the best midfielders in the premiership?

He's barely 21. How many top players in his position are less than 25? It requires maturity to play DM - blame Wenger for not sorting this out.

Qwiss

yuv wrote:
but that there's no way we are making top 4 this year.

Of course we will. And then the idiots will cheer and then we'll suffer the same shit again next year.

y va marquer

Not a single world class striker in our ranks.
Just the one creative player in our whole team.
No ideas, no pace, no real skill.
No organisation. No sense of purpose.
Players lacking fitness and conditioning.
Reject goalkeeper. Dozy defence.
S*** s*** s*** and more s****
Got what we deserved.
No excuses.
Annoyed that I allowed myself be sucked in by this idiotic notion that this team had the potential to score goals from various sources.
They don't.
The notion that RVP's creative influence and goals could be replaced by Giroud and Podolski is looking retarded right now.
Cazorla isn't going to do it on his own, and he's being dragged down by the dearth of options around him.
Play a killer pass to Gervinho ~ watch him screw it up.
Choose Ramsey ~ watch it go backwards.
One shot on target.
Criminal. Disgraceful.

lorddulaarsenal

We just lack quality in the front three. It's just awful

Kel Varnsen

this team lacks mobility and intensity. there is no sense of urgency in the way we play and the movement is shit.

Mirth

squallkid wrote:
Don Pacifico wrote:
Have we had any brilliant games this season? That's a serious question.

We were good against Liverpool and West Ham but that was down to individuals rather than the collective unit.

I was going to suggest Man City, everyone apart from MAnnone played like Kings in that game

We played well enough in those games but even two-three years ago our standards were a lot higher.

Today was just lame, to say that we deserve to be the losing team at home is embarrassing.

Don Pacifico

qs! wrote:
Don Pacifico wrote:
He's just young and inconsistent. Has had good games but has also had bad games.

I've never really seen him have a great match though. Usually even if I disagree I see where people might feel like a player is good. With Coquelin though I just don't see anything there.

Spurs (A) last season comes to mind. He does make mistakes but no more than Frimpong and I think he's got a higher ceiling (certainly got superior technique).

Don Pacifico

squallkid wrote:
Don Pacifico wrote:
Have we had any brilliant games this season? That's a serious question.

We were good against Liverpool and West Ham but that was down to individuals rather than the collective unit.

I was going to suggest Man City, everyone apart from MAnnone played like Kings in that game

If we'd played like kings, we would have won that game. City were very average in that match.

Agree with GM that standards have dropped.

yuv

qs! wrote:
yuv wrote:
but that there's no way we are making top 4 this year.

Of course we will. And then the idiots will cheer and then we'll suffer the same shit again next year.

Don't think it's happening again, qs. I know Jack is coming back, and the improved mid unit might become a center of something, but ATM you have to ask - a center of what? there's just nobody there. No team to talk about, no players to talk about. Hard to see how we're making it like that. We are absolutely terrible.

mags

Very small consolation that RMadrid and ManC lost....Both away games...

lorddulaarsenal

Huntelaar came across well in that interview. You can tell he has a brain

mohan

<Snip> Not worth it.

squallkid

I didn't watch the game so I can't comment on that but right here, we can't let it all go to pieces.

The last thing this team needs is a poisonous atmosphere and unfortunately that's what it might turn into. I'm not about to suggest that cheering them on for ninety minutes will turn them into world-beaters, far from it. But calling them "****, ******* useless, headless chickens and saying we should have kept RVP/Fabregas/Henry/Adebayor/Nasri/Clichy/Whoever" isn't going to help matters.

All of those players have left and mean nothing to me or Arsenal FC.

We have a squad of 25.

They are our players

They play for our club.

Okay they aren't a team of world beaters, neither will any of them win world player of the year but they are ours and should get our support.

Us against the world now.

est

mags wrote:
Very small consolation that RMadrid and ManC lost....Both away games...

I really don't give a fuck about them. Too depressed about our own useless lot.

yuv

I want Gnabry to start each game from this point on.
If only cos he's the only one (bar Art and Caz) who didn't prove he does not deserve it. And - how much worse can it be, anyway?

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