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Keeping Fit

y va marquer

I reckon I've taken it to the point where I need to rethink and research 🙂
Discussion stalled.

Bold Tone

Found a recent picture of Kel and Timmeh relaxing with Arnie and some pals

y va marquer

😆
The guy with the surfboard

Mirth

Arshavin?

y va marquer

That's it! It was bugging me as I couldn't think of who it was exactly that he reminded me.
Classic 😆

Burnwinter

y va marquer wrote:

It's a theory.
A sedantry lifestyle is far more unnatural to us

Oh God. Not that book again. I've never read it but it's had both my sister and my best mate buying toe-shoes and spouting nonsense over the last couple of years. 🙂

Mirth

Toe shoes are supposed to be good for you!

But:

y va marquer

They're horrible looking - I'd prefer to go barefoot rather than wear them 🙂

Burnwinter

I should probably read it, so far I've had to play the cynic in long-winded arguments about whether humans are 'really, naturally' built to run long distances in bare feet. Personally I guess it's something humans can do, but I'm far from convinced we're evolved specifically and ideally for it.

Kel Varnsen

does it really matter one way or the other? interesting from a purely evolutionary biology perspective, but from an exercise perspective it is pointless.

Armor

#Timmeh wrote:
I do agree with Kel that doing core specific stuff is for the birds.

Disagree with that completely. Maybe if you just want general fitness its not needed but if you're serious about fitness you don't think core work is needed? A professional athlete?

lorddulaarsenal

Kel Varnsen wrote:
does it really matter one way or the other? interesting from a purely evolutionary biology perspective, but from an exercise perspective it is pointless.

Running is pointless as an exercise?

Lukazan

Armor wrote:
#Timmeh wrote:
I do agree with Kel that doing core specific stuff is for the birds.

Disagree with that completely. Maybe if you just want general fitness its not needed but if you're serious about fitness you don't think core work is needed? A professional athlete?

Same here. I've been doing some intense core-specific work for about a month and I've noticed improvements in my lifts, running and general sporting performance.You really can't underestimate how important your core is in everything you do, lazing on your back aside.

Rex

I think that what Kel and Tim are saying is that if you do a proper weights routine then you get your core taken care of as well without having to do core specific work.

Timbob

That's exactly what I'm saying Rexy. You lift properly with good form and you HAVE to engage your core. It's all about functional strength with full range of movement, through multiple planes of motion. Sit ups will just get your abs strong for sit ups.

Kel Varnsen

@lorddulaarsenal wrote:
Kel Varnsen wrote:
does it really matter one way or the other? interesting from a purely evolutionary biology perspective, but from an exercise perspective it is pointless.

Running is pointless as an exercise?

no. it's pointless whether we're "designed" to run or not.

Kel Varnsen

additional core work can be beneficial for many sports, but for general fitness it is a waste of time. squats, deadlifts, rows and bench press will sufficiently train your core muscles.

Rex

I'd agree with what Tim says. Problem is that too many clowns don't really know what they are doing with weights.

speedy

Burnwinter wrote:
I should probably read it, so far I've had to play the cynic in long-winded arguments about whether humans are 'really, naturally' built to run long distances in bare feet. Personally I guess it's something humans can do, but I'm far from convinced we're evolved specifically and ideally for it.

Ive treated afrian people who have lived bear foot and they have feet like rugby balls. They could run bear foot no problem. But if you put weak finger toe shoes on a person who sat and lay down and worn protective trainers for the past 30 years. They usually pick up an injury in the first 2 weeks of training in vibrams.

If you want to train bear foot you start by walking around the house ect and slowly build from there. You dont start bearfoot training by running and thats where most people go wrong.

RE Core training , it is important. It creates a stable/ unstable platform for your limbs to work of. But the ability of your core depends on stances. For example some weight lifters have a good symmetrical squat. But put them standing on one leg and there all over the place. Then they decide there going to do some cardio and run and fall apart. Core function is reflex driven and foot stance specific.

Some weighs ex are good for core but not many and weight training with a pelvic/core imbalance will magnify that imbalance more often than correct it.

Gazza M

i've been doing functional strength training for the last 6 months

mainly based off kettlebells (get-ups, swings, snatches, cleans)
body weight (pull ups, renegade rows, one leg squats)
and explosive cardio (interval cycling, mountain climbers, burpees)

diet has been about 1.5-2g of protein per lb from from chicken/fish/shakes, carbs mainly from fruit and vegetables with the occassional brown rice/pasta, and fats from flaxseed oil, mixed nuts, and peanut butter. i've aimed for leaning down, so i've done my best to eat around 200-300 below calorie maintenance.

never been in better shape, especially the explosive strength in my legs. i can violently dunk a basketball in a variety of ways now, which is what i've always wanted.

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