Sunderland wern't midly interested in attacking. Only time will tell how we fare.

Need to move for Banega if we can't agree a deal for Sahin.

i wouldn't mind a versatile defensive player who could slot in at cb and dm, depending on who we're playing and who's fit. i do however not think we really need a dedicated defensive midfielder.

we have six "attacking" players. we can not afford to have one sitting dm and wingers like walcott and gervinho in the team if our intentions are to play quick passing football. there is a limit to how many passengers we can have in the starting line up.

Klaus wrote:

Need to move for Banega if we can't agree a deal for Sahin.

+1

Was just thinking about alternatives this morning.

Arteta was holding yesterday and he did a good job as per. Won the ball back plenty and slotted in to the back line when needed. We don't need a dedicated defensive midfielder.

Kel Varnsen wrote:

i wouldn't mind a versatile defensive player who could slot in at cb and dm, depending on who we're playing and who's fit. i do however not think we really need a dedicated defensive midfielder.

we have six "attacking" players. we can not afford to have one sitting dm and wingers like walcott and gervinho in the team if our intentions are to play quick passing football. there is a limit to how many passengers we can have in the starting line up.

What about M'Vila? He's a very quick and accurate passer. You don't think havig that sitter might give the team a bit more stability and structure, helping us pass the ball quicker as a result. Think my ideal would look something like:

---------------M'Vila
---------Sahin----Wilshere
Chambo-------------------Cazorla

With Arteta able to play the holding role and as one of the two further forward, and Chambo and Cazorla playing central often as well.

Ricky1985 wrote:
Kel Varnsen wrote:

i wouldn't mind a versatile defensive player who could slot in at cb and dm, depending on who we're playing and who's fit. i do however not think we really need a dedicated defensive midfielder.

we have six "attacking" players. we can not afford to have one sitting dm and wingers like walcott and gervinho in the team if our intentions are to play quick passing football. there is a limit to how many passengers we can have in the starting line up.

What about M'Vila? He's a very quick and accurate passer. You don't think havig that sitter might give the team a bit more stability and structure, helping us pass the ball quicker as a result. Think my ideal would look something like:

---------------M'Vila
---------Sahin----Wilshere
Chambo-------------------Cazorla

With Arteta able to play the holding role and as one of the two further forward, and Chambo and Cazorla playing central often as well.

don't know enough about m'vila to say one way or the other, but there is a lot of quality in that set up. i do think wilshere, sahin, cazorla and chambo should play together as often as possible. i don't see many teams being able to contain us.

Klaus wrote:

Need to move for Banega if we can't agree a deal for Sahin.

Dream signing for me

Get Sahin and M'vila.

Maybe it was the euros, but we seem to be taking M'vila's quality for granted on this board. He's a monster player.

Don't recall you having that opinion previously, Cap. Good to hear though.

Mvila is defo a top player.

Certainly plays with far more intelligence than song. Baffled barca wanted him

Ricky1985 wrote:

Don't recall you having that opinion previously, Cap. Good to hear though.

I didn't give an opinion before. 😆

But seriously, it's not like I'm an expert on the player (can pretty much count on one hand how many times I've seen him, excluding the euros) so I've been keeping those thoughts to myself. Just find it a bit strange that he has become so underrated here.

David Ornstein ‏@bbcsport_david
Arsenal close to completing Sahin deal. Season-long loan with view to permanent. Confirmation likely early next week #bbcfootball #afc #rmfc

happy dance

squallkid wrote:

David Ornstein ‏@bbcsport_david
Arsenal close to completing Sahin deal. Season-long loan with view to permanent. Confirmation likely early next week #bbcfootball #afc #rmfc

happy dance

Glad we got that included.

Rumours of this Sahin deal being tied up soon and M'Vila coming as well, that sounds too good to be true!

Olly, Barca love versatile players and they could do with someone who can chip in midifield if needed but play CB as well as that is a weakness for them. They needed to replace Keita so Song will do that for them as well.

squallkid wrote:

David Ornstein ‏@bbcsport_david
Arsenal close to completing Sahin deal. Season-long loan with view to permanent. Confirmation likely early next week #bbcfootball #afc #rmfc

happy dance

Ornstein has been on the money with all of our transfers this window.

Brilliant news if true, how do these options to buy work anyway? Is it our right or only if Madrid accept after as in some kind of first option...

No need for M'vila now. Get a RB and a goal poacher.

Just remember who brought you guys the good news.

I'm sure Mr. X had a whisper in Ornstein's ear about this transfer

Option to buy usually means either A) we've pre-agreed a price. If we offer that price during or at the end of the loan, madrid have to accept the offer. Or B) If any other team have a bid accepted by real, real have to accept a bid from us of equal value.

Don't know a lot about him but he has been hyped up beyond belief by you lot, so he better be fucking good!

Fantastic.Mr.Fox wrote:

We've signed him Y va!

I reckon so even though it's not official.
Swift culling of Song and CL football made it so?
Was worried about the Mourinho factor but for no good reason it now seems.
8)
This is brilliant news

Mello wrote:

Option to buy usually means either A) we've pre-agreed a price. If we offer that price during or at the end of the loan, madrid have to accept the offer. Or B) If any other team have a bid accepted by real, real have to accept a bid from us of equal value.

Well, that's dangerous. If Chelsea or Man City like what they see, there's no chance we can compete with that.

But worry about it then, I guess.

The sun is rising on Arsenal!
Yes!

Thanks Melo, sounds good

Anyone remember his old videos before he went to Dortmund, he actually had some sweet dribbling skillzz before he got converted to a cm

Never saw or heard of him before dortmund tbh.

Mello wrote:

Never saw or heard of him before dortmund tbh.

😆