We're all setting ourselves up for colossal disappointment.
Stevan Jovetic
Probably true. Nice to be linked to a player I rate for a change though.
Yep, best player we've been linked to in ages.
No need to worry about being disappointed just yet 
I've been sucked in by it. Tried not to, but I really like the look of this guy.
When someone credible gets started on this story aka BBC Sports or one of their journalists then I'll start getting excited
As far as I can tell, only source for this is Football Mercado, who are also reporting that we're signing Ganso for €17m. The Ganso rumour is based on a fake twitter account pretending to be from a reputable website which in turn is actually claiming he's off to Internacional!
I thought that Football Mercado were taking their cue from some Italian sports website.
Anyways this isn't very likely.
When the BBC report on it, it's as good as finalized, before then I'm not believing this.
Tutto Mercato or something? Equally useless site.
Rumour Accuracy For Arsenal
The Scotsman 1 / 1 ->100%
Bild 2 / 3 ->66.7%
The Times 32 / 92 -> 34.8%
Daily Telegraph 25 / 73 -> 34.2%
The Independent 20 / 60 -> 33.3%
Daily Mail 93 / 347 -> 26.8%
The Guardian 13 / 49 -> 26.5%
The Express 38 / 146 -> 26%
Surprisingly no mention of tuttomercato.com
Just wait for Bild to say we're interested in Jovetic then 8)
So this guy, Giroud and Podolski in and RvP out = more overall firepower rather than an over-reliance on one man?
Would be a good purchase if it comes to pass
Here's to hoping to read this in The Scotsman then.
Haha - brilliant stats. Where you get that from?
How do you judge if a rumour is correct or not? Not all interest is followed through or successful.
and i hope they differentiate between being the original source of the rumor and just reprinting it.
y va marquer wrote:Rumour Accuracy For Arsenal
The Scotsman 1 / 1 ->100%
Bild 2 / 3 ->66.7%
The Times 32 / 92 -> 34.8%
Daily Telegraph 25 / 73 -> 34.2%
The Independent 20 / 60 -> 33.3%
Daily Mail 93 / 347 -> 26.8%
The Guardian 13 / 49 -> 26.5%
The Express 38 / 146 -> 26%
right, but how many of those were lazy sideways or backwards rumours?
this was all a ploy by van persie to get us to fork out the cash for jovetic.
ALL IS FORGIVEN
Wow - I have not seen that site before.
Those stats are quite nice, and since most of these publications don't attribute their sources it doesn't really matter where the stories come from, just the hit rate. Get some measurement going on the bluffers - if it could inform purchasing choices it could slowly redefine the transfer rumour market.
They should extend it to Twitter though.
So Fiorentina want £20M for him. I say let's wrap this up here and now.
20m is a bloody bargain for us.
If we get him and lose Chamakh, I won't even remember there was any problem this summer.
Check the Players Leaving thread yuv.... Fiorentina are denying having made an offer for Chamakh.
That £3m a year he earns for doing absolutely nothing at all has killed the interest.
Probably insulted by the link that Wenger seems to have invented. What was that about?!
We might not have paid anything for him but the useless leech is costing us now.
They must have at least made a formal enquiry to know how much he's earning. That they're using it as an excuse not to sign him suggests he's not willing to compromise, and has told them that.
Also, it's an oddly low salary, given that we signed him as a free agent - would have expected free agents to command a premium. Unless we gave him some kind of up-front bonus, of course.
"Have we made an offer for Chamakh? We have not made one because he earns €3 million [a season]," Fiorentina sporting director Daniele Prade told SportItalia.
3 million euros comes to about 45k a week in pounds according to my calculations. Not as bad as feared then.
But anything is too much for someone that is so useless and eating up wages. Can't we find some Turkish club or something to take him?
What the Fiorentina chairman claims to be the case in the press is neither here nor there tbh. He might be on 3 million a year, he might be on more, he might be on less. Fiorentina might have tabled a bid, made an enquiry, or they might have zero interest at all.
Transfer games.
If we sell Chamakh to Fiorentina without an exchange deal then i can't see us being interested in Jovetic.
Can't say I've seen much of him but I've been caught up by the hype. Although the last time that happened I spent a year watching Kagawa only to see him fuck off to United.
Will Fiorentina sell him though? How strong is their position?
I feel like any club that actually puts a price-tag on a player will certainly sell them. They're pretty cash-strapped anyway. Prade is a loud-mouthed bastard it turns out. I'm sure the whole thing with Chamakh is his version of bargaining.
No matter what anyone says, I am going to think that Jovetic is just a formality away from being ours until he signs for someone else.
Coombs wrote:I feel like any club that actually puts a price-tag on a player will certainly sell them. They're pretty cash-strapped anyway. Prade is a loud-mouthed bastard it turns out. I'm sure the whole thing with Chamakh is his version of bargaining.
Wonder if he's funnier than Montpellier's owner
In January, Newcastle were also linked with Giroud, prompting an angry response from Montpellier owner Louis Nicollin. “Newcastle? They are too small for him,” said Nicollin.
“Arsenal? You would have to see if Arsène Wenger is interested but, as before, there is Van Persie. And at €10 million [£8.3 million]? No. Given that he still has more than two years of contract, it will cost more.
“He has a contract until 2014, so €50 million[£42 million] or €60 million [£50 million] at least.”
That how you feel when you see him Y va?
Hell no!
Doc wrote:
Nah ... that's just a polite way of saying he is available at the right price. It's not like Prade would ever come out and publicly say he's available for less than a massive value.
One on one price negotiation always, always works from the best cases of buyer and seller in to compromise. However there's always the chance of a bidding war if there's more than one serious buyer.
30m euros is about 23 million which is a fair price for Jovetic. Throw Chamakh in the deal and you could bring that down to 19 million.
Just throw Chamakh in at 23 mill, it'd still be a deal.
That's a fuckload of money any which way you look at it, but we could afford it easily if Van Persie moves.
It'd be worth it just because defenders would be scared of anyone that cost that much, and Jovetic is good enough to capitalize on that (unlike the Horseballer) even if he isn't the fully finished article just yet.
We could afford it if Van Persie stayed, I think, but it would be somewhat risky. If Fiorentina really are as financially fucked as it seems, though, then replacing him with an actual player might be better for them in the end, even if it is just Marouane Chamakh.
"It'd be worth it just because defenders would be scared of anyone that cost that much"
:hmm: