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Hegel vs Aristotle

Qwiss

I think Germany are going to win this at a canter.

Biggus

Hope so Qs, but they're still very junge, I'm always worried that Spain will do their usual trick of boring everyone to sleep then scoring.

I said a couple of seasons ago that we should- Go Jerry with the signings of Mert and Pod it looks like Wenger is indeed moving in that direction, forget about France Spain Holland and Portugal- full of self absorbed wankers, the Germans have a better attitude and work ethic.

Captain

We have signed the overspill from the old era though.

Qwiss

Germans seem to have the sort of steel to them that the English are always pretending their players have. In reality the modern English player is every bit as spoiled as his Spanish contemporary, just with much less right to be.

Biggus

Still though better than the droppings from Barcelona.
Add in Schwiensteigger Muller or Bender and I'd become a Wengephile again.

Captain

Spain are the most likely winners either way. They have the total package and nobody can deny that.

Timbob

Spain are the most egoless top team going, at least on the pitch where it matters.

Biggus

Well they're favourites.

Captain

Quite, but when you talk about work ethic and attitude, Spain come out top there as well.

Biggus

😆 Not according to the economic outlook they don't.

They're tactically disciplined in a way that Spanish teams weren't in the past, and of course they're riding this wave of momentum and confidence.
They play a defensive/possession style, I think they could be beaten by a side that plays a defensive/counter attacking style, but theres not really any international teams with top players that can play way now, like the Germany/Italy/Argentina of old for example.

Klaus

Biggus wrote:
😆 Not according to the economic outlook they don't.

😆

Captain

Biggus wrote:
😆 Not according to the economic outlook they don't.

Everyone knows that's Merkel's fault.

Of course they are beatable but they are still the best.

Rex

The scary part is that they are worse now than 4 or even 2 years ago - and they are still the best.
Actually think Italy stand the best chance of beating them.

Timbob

I think Spain have stood still because there's no other team around that's good enough to really push them on a consistent basis. They won the last world cup in 4th gear and at this tournament I don't think they've broken a sweat so far.

Captain

They did against Croatia.

Timbob

I dont think they ever believed they weren't gonna get the result they needed in the Croatia game. They might have slipped a gear or two if Croatia had scored. Only time they've really stepped it up in the tournament imo was after Italy took the lead in the first game, and then they equalised straight away and then should have scored 3 more in the last 15 minutes.

Captain

Croatia had them beat in my opinion.

Ricky1985

What has surprised me about Spain so far is the lack of pressure they have in midfield. Very different to the World Cup where they pressed the ball with much greater intensity.

I agree that Croatia had them rocking, but also agree with Tim that they would have upped it big time if they needed too.

Maybe they've become a bit like Roger Federer, expend as little energy as possible until you meet the opponents that can really push you?

spacemanspiff

Croatia only "had them beat" because Spain were faffing about. If that was a knockout match (and yes I know the stakes were high in that match regardless) Croatia wouldn't have stood a chance.

Captain

Croatia were tactically spot on; you guys aren't giving them enough credit. 'Faffing about'? 😆

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