That was before my time
And yes Biggus very obviously winning it once is better than never winning it.
Face it, with or without Wenger our chances of CL victory are minuscule as long as we have an owner and board who are only bothered about the revenue it brings as opposed to being seriously interested in winning it.

What man city, chelsea and even liverpool has shown us is spend at least around 60 million and you will win a trophy, any argument wenger puts just has to be shown this fact, he better Spend big this summer or we are better off sacking him now.

Wenger knows the facts Sam.
What we think we're better off doing is largely irrelevant to those who run the club.

Wenger won't be sacked and we won't spend £60m on buying players this summer.
How were you going to arrange to have him sacked anyway?

The same way avb and dalglish were sacked no room for sentiment

You think Kroenke and the boys are keeping Wenger around for sentimental reasons?

To a certain extent, the amount of coverage it would get would enormous and if it doesnt pay off they will be known as the "ones who sacked wenger" it seems easier to get rid of gaddafi than wenger

SamDaGooner wrote:

What man city, chelsea and even liverpool has shown us is spend at least around 60 million and you will win a trophy

What are you talking about?

Biggus wrote:

Gurgen wrote:

Neither do you apparently.

What are you talking about?
It's not me bleating about "outplayed" and "fluked".

That's true, you bleat the other same, tiresome nonsense.

Those three are the only teams to Spend over 60 mil in 2011 and all three have won a trophy... the correlation between spending big and winning is quite clear

Carling Cup is not a trophy.

Sure as hell isn't.

SamDaGooner wrote:

Those three are the only teams to Spend over 60 mil in 2011 and all three have won a trophy...

But that's an insane way of reasoning. You're ignoring years and years of investment. City, for instance, have spent around £500 million on players in the last few years, and that's ignoring what's probably the world's biggest wage bill at this point. Abramovich has spent billions at Chelsea since he took over. Those teams weren't assembled last summer.

Gurgen wrote:

Biggus wrote:

What are you talking about?
It's not me bleating about "outplayed" and "fluked".

That's true, you bleat the other same, tiresome nonsense.

Don't mind Biggus. When it's one of those tipi-tapi teams who rake home 47 trophies in a decade only seven or eight of them really count, and they're still only half as good as when Mourinho wins them.

A Google search on John Terry throws up

Add to that: pretends he played in CL final.

Klaus wrote:

Sure as hell isn't.

SamDaGooner wrote:

Those three are the only teams to Spend over 60 mil in 2011 and all three have won a trophy...

But that's an insane way of reasoning. You're ignoring years and years of investment. City, for instance, have spent around £500 million on players in the last few years, and that's ignoring what's probably the world's biggest wage bill at this point. Abramovich has spent billions at Chelsea since he took over. Those teams weren't assembled last summer.

I dunno, seems to be a strong correlation between spending loads of money and fucking up your league form too. Must be accurate.

The pattern is pretty obvious when you think about it. Liverpool spent £150 million or so and finished 8th. Chelsea spent a little less and finished 6th. Arsenal spent even less than that and finished 3rd. It's only logical to suspect that a team with a negative net spend will win Premier League next year. We're talking West Ham or Norwich in all likelihood. West Bromwich, perhaps. Odds will probably be around 1000/1. Time to get the season bets in early this year.

Or what about city Spend 100 million win the league. Put it like this if abramovic was not at chelsea would they have won the league in 05 and 09 or the cl or fa cup...

Exactly my point. Where are we going to get 100 million to spend, let alone
60? And that's talking transfers. Then there are wages.

biggus, you've gone bonkers. lumping bayern in with barca as a tippy tappy pussyball team? 6th place finisher in england the best team in europe? you're making no sense. take a little break from football. we know we're stuck with wenger and that he's not going to win anything - that doesn't mean every single event in football needs to shoehorned into your anti-wenger crusade, no matter how ridiculous they are on their face.

y va marquer wrote:

I wonder if in post Abromovich years to come people will be looking at a non event Chelsea and thinking jeez, did they really once win the CL - bit like Marseille or Villa or Forest.
Last night's victory being a one off never to be repeated result, the end of an era as opposed to the beginning.

That's how it seems to me.

Don't you reckon that's a bit optimistic? It's not like Roman's money is running out.

There are thousands and thousands of Chelsea fans celebrating in the streets.