Agreed. Dont drop the soap Stacey.

Tony Montana wrote:

Coombs wrote:

It's pretty terrifying...makes me realize that I really don't want to move back to ol'Blighty no matter how much I sometimes think I do.

Where are you from exactly and where do you live now?

From London. Live in Colorado, USA.

Captain wrote:

Maybe it's because that article has stopped short of showing the full exchange, but trust me on this one, the kid got what he deserved.

Don't think many people deserve to go to jail for doing essentially nothing but say stupid insensitive things. Much worse things in the world than racism. Reading his tweets, the kid is clearly not even really a racist, just a moron.

Here in America you can shoot someone because they're black and get away with it apparently, which is equally disturbing in a different way. Then again, Florida isn't really a good representation of the US....

Biggus wrote:

Coombs wrote:

Completely ridiculous to jail someone for that. English system is so fucked up. Who gives a toss what he said on twitter? Unbelievably petty.

Yeah it's unbelievable that nowadays you can't even laugh at a young black man who nearly died and incite racial hatred without breaking the law.

kamikaze wrote:

personally, i find it kinda scary that the UK govt can jail you for saying something deemed racist online. thought police are out in full force.

it's one thing (a good thing) to make sure there's no discrimination in hiring practices, academic admissions or commerce, it's another thing entirely to make it illegal to have personal, racist beliefs.

Ah but he didn't keep his personal racist beliefs to himself, he shared them with the whole world, therefore it was not a "thought crime" it was a real one.

It is absolutely unbelievable. I should be able to share any of my personal racist beliefs with as many people as I damn well please. I should especially be able to laugh at whoever and whatever I want without facing legal action!

"Inciting racial hatred" is not even a real thing. It would absolutely already have to be there, people don't become racist because they read a tweet on twitter...

The kid is a douche, and should be slapped by his mother, and I'm sure he'll get hell at school, which is plenty punishment. In the meantime, instead of whipping up all this stupid drama, the media should be focusing on the actual person in question...Muamba.

You're wrong, there aren't much worse things in the world than racism or any sort of discrimination. There are, however, much worse ways for it to manifest itself and that's why he got a month that will be reduced to community service on appeal. It's not a willy waving contest and, to be blunt, what happens in america has no relevance in Britain.

We have our laws, you break them, you get punished and the judge made it perfectly clear as to why he gave the sentence that he did. As a 21 year member of society, if Stacey is big enough to post about hanging niggers from trees and all sorts of other things, he's big enough to take his justified punishment.

You couldn't be more wrong, sorry to say. The only people waving their willies here are the British government, yet again taking attention away from an actual event and putting themselves in the limelight. Far more despicable than some moronic twitter comments.

How are the government putting themselves in the limelight? :hmm:

? By making absurd arrests and having court cases over drunk racist tweeting...how are they not??

The British government is it? The sentence was passed by a judge...

What am I wrong about exactly? He didn't break the law? Strange that he was arrested, charged and sentenced then.

The Judgement has nothing to do with the media so you're talking absolute nonsense (and that is ignoring the fact that this issue hasn't detracted a single bit from Muamba).

Coombs wrote:

? By making absurd arrests and having court cases over drunk racist tweeting...how are they not??

Because the courts are independent of the British government.

He's not getting done for merely expressing his own personal views. He's getting done for promoting racially aggravated violence in a public forum. No different to getting pissed in the pub and then loudly calling for all black people to be hanged or raped.

Fully justified sentence.

Alright, firstly, judicial systems are branches of government, so stop trying to catch me on bogus semantics. Second, there are more news stories on Stacey's arrest on a quick google search than on Muamba's heart attack when you search the word "Muamba." Hence, I think the media is going a little mental on it. It's shameful and petty in my opinion. Thirdly, laws are not ethics. Ethically, I am in disagreement with the law in this instance.

Strangely, google gives me stories about Muamba when I type his name in. Weird.

You think the media is going mental; cool. So what's shameful and petty? the media or the judgement because you have lost me there. Laws are not ethics, that's quite right and exactly why I said that if Stacey wants to go around breaking laws, he has to face the consequence.

The government, by the way, have about as much to do with this judgement as I do.

That twonk Brendan O'Neill is now saying he shouldn't have been jailed.

This conclusively proves the decision was correct in my view.

For me 6 of the 11 first google results for Muamba return links about the racism story.

Can't say I'm too enthused with the laws on this. Partly because of the precedent, but also because throwing people in jail isnt a terribly effective way of killing an idea.

My thoughts:-

Stacey sure wont do it again, and he'd better not drop the soap.

If it's not this, the media will go oevrboard on some other silly story.

This has probably cost a lot of money with court fees and police time and resources.

No matter what he said on twitter, most folk wouldnt endorse his views.

Pepe LeFrits wrote:

For me 6 of the 11 first google results for Muamba return links about the racism story.

Can't say I'm too enthused with the laws on this. Partly because of the precedent, but also because throwing people in jail isnt a terribly effective way of killing an idea.

Precedent was set some time ago Peps, this one just happens to be in the news because it involved Muamba.

Sentence was upheld according to breaking news; that I didn't expect.

Coombs wrote:

Tony Montana wrote:

Where are you from exactly and where do you live now?

From London. Live in Colorado, USA.

How did you get that gig?

I've lived in NY for a year but I'm moving back now. Wouldn't mind living in the U.S. but then there's family, friends and live European football at normal times (i.e not when you're at work or sleeping in on Saturday morning/afternoon).

Never been to Colorado.