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Adios Cesc

Rohit

Caligula wrote:
That's unreasonable, Rohit. We knew we needed reinforcements when Fabregas and Nasri were about. We didn't even replace them adequately when they left. He made the right decision for himself. Sticking around with us was just a fruitless pursuit

We signed Gervinho even before there was any surety about either Cesc or Nasri leaving and would have strengthened, even though we wouldn't have signed any star names.. I admire that Cesc gave everything on the pitch when he played for us, he played through injuries but i believe he dipped too when he should have carried the team when we needed him the most. Anyways no point in dwelling on what was but don't you feel let down by him at all Cali?

Claudius

No, not at all. This was a guy who when healthy played his heart out, and even risked his longterm career by playing for us injured. There are a lot of Arsenal players I do not care for, but I find it very hard to feel let down by Cesc the player. In the summer of 2010, Arsenal were a general manager's dream. The type of clear-out we saw this summer should have happened last summer. It is then we should have brought in guys like Mertesacker, Park and Arteta and dumped men like Eboue and Bendtner.

Think about your own life, Rohit. What do you do for a living?

Rohit

That arguement has been put forth a number of times mate, with regards to players moving for higher wages and to fulfill their ambitions.

The former we can do nothing about but he obviously didn't leave for money. The latter i think he had every chance of accomplishing here at Arsenal Football Club as the captain. He appeared in a CL final, came very close to a title and was in a very competitive team, at one of the biggest clubs in Europe. It was a challenge but for the amount he claims to love this club i wonder if he questioned what more could he do when the team was down because he himself never rose above the rest when the chips were down.

I also don't see how the Cesc being just another employee arguement, or the same arguement presented for so many players can be equated with us normal men. Even if it does and if my boss has played a massive role in me being who i am, if my company's fortune depends on me staying, if every other employee looks upto me then i will shun a bigger offer from another company. I don't even know who to equate with the most important element in the whole piece, the fans.

Cesc is 24, not 28, he had time.

Anyways, i am just upset i guess, i really wish he had stayed, we would have had more of a chance of winning something.

Captain

Cesc is just showing his lack of class. Had everyone fooled for a long time.

Claudius

Rohit, I wish we had stayed and that we had built around him, but this club is in disarray. After 7 years of this turmoil, I would have bailed too. Capi, I'm not sure how he is showing a lack of class. He has not attacked the manager or any of the other players. He has just pointed out the types of things that even nomads in the Kalahari know about us.

y va marquer

Well, with that interview, he kind of rubbishes the whole theory that he only wanted to go to Barca because he was of Barca.
His native ties with the city and club - I actually believed that was the main driving reason for him leaving, appears not to be the case now.

Gurgen

He showed his lack of a class a long time ago by mouthing off to opposition managers, diving and waving imaginary cards all the time.

Captain

Do you tell women in the street that they have an ugly baby?

As I said, lack of class.

Claudius

It's fine. If he had something like 'I left when they signed that hasbeen Gervinho', then I would have been appalled. This is nothing. This is the kind of thing our players like RvP and Henry talk about while they are with us.

I really don't see what he has said that is appalling. We have an inferior squad to Citeh and United. Stop the press! Who knew?

Biggus

Captain wrote:
Cesc is just showing his lack of class. Had everyone fooled for a long time.

He didn't fool me, I hated the style of football we played with him and much preferred the way we played with Vieira and co. 🙂

I'm glad that he's gone although we should have squeezed Barcelona for more- And would have but for Wenger "rewarding" him and fighting for his interests instead of ours.

lorddulaarsenal

Can't wait for the Spanish economy to fold.

Biggus

And he ends up discovering the Manchester DNA we all knew he had.

Captain

Biggus wrote:
Captain wrote:
Cesc is just showing his lack of class. Had everyone fooled for a long time.

He didn't fool me, I hated the style of football we played with him and much preferred the way we played with Vieira and co. 🙂

I'm glad that he's gone although we should have squeezed Barcelona for more- And would have but for Wenger "rewarding" him and fighting for his interests instead of ours.

Don't say that Biggus, people will think you're crazy.

Claudius

Biggus wrote:
And he ends up discovering the Manchester DNA we all knew he had.

😆
Just glad to be done with him and his era. I'm quietly hopeful that we will emerge from this a smarter and better team. Wenger has already made some efforts to inject a bit more size and speed into the team. If he can bring in a little more quality as well, we will be on our way. I was always a fan of Cesc but never a fan of the system we built around him and the distractions he attracted

Biggus

Mayhap I am Capi, being "ahead of the curve" is never a safe place to be.

But I did hate Fabregas before it became so fashionable. 🙂

Captain

Don't get me started.

Biggus

Aww come on Capi, Vrooom Vroom.

y va marquer

Cesc's a sly one but he's a brilliant footballer.
Unfortunately we were never going to invest enough to get the few quality players we were missing to raise the overall level of the team while he was here.

Biggus

He's obviously very talented and could play in many kinds of teams and systems.
But building our entire system around such a young player, trying to play Spanish style football in the PL was bad enough, but compounding it by refusing to support him with some complimentary steel was criminally negligent.

y va marquer

It was negligent and, considering that Wenger is a smart man, incomprehensible.

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