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Viktor Gyokeres

Meatwad

wouldn't playing more games in fact help him get to peak fitness.

Gunner89

Not in the ideal manner

An unconditioned player being asked to start every major game without a proper pre-season will take time to get into rhythm, would have been far better if havertz had not got injured

That's why pre-season exists and that's why players playing through extra matches in the WC year like getting to the semis or finals get extended time off and are typically eased into the squad

Isak has been at liverpool for 2 months and it's the same for him

Meatwad

just sounds like excuses. we're approaching november and the 3rd international break in a few weeks. just call it adaptation issues or something, but this pre-season excuse is for early september.

Gunner89

You're right the players should just show up end of July and play a few games before the PL starts

I mean what on earth are the club spending a month of fitness work before playing games right?

A proper pre-season puts players to the limit in terms of fitness and conditions them optimally for the season and even then once the pre-season matches start they typically play 40-50 mins and build up their fitness

A player cannot simply do the level of fitness work that he needs to do in pre-season during the middle of the regular season nor consistent intensity of starting 90 mins week in week out without conditioning will lead to physical fatigue or injury (Glad we didn't get the latter at least with Havertz out)

it's really not rocket science

There's a reason all 3 Isak, Gyokeres and wissa all had issues

Qwiss

Sicario2 I think he'll still feel the pressure against Palace but hopefully confidence is up and if he scores in that match then I think he'll go off and we'll see him really hit his form.

Sicario2

Klaus

Left out of Sweden's international games against Switzerland and Slovenia, thank god. I was sure they were gonna pick him and make the injury worse.

Grim times ahead for Sweden though. We're putting all our stock in Isak and his bum fucking hip right now. Bloke scores for the national team at the same rate as a central mid under the best of circumstances.

lorddulaarsenal

Missed him a lot today

lorddulaarsenal

Watching Ekitike today and Sesko recently, both lack power, which is understandable given their age. Gyokeres is a manny man and that physical presence is a big positive in fixtures against the toughest opponents

Sicario2

Can’t get my head around how poor the VG cameo was yesterday. We usually give that kind of grace to younger players not big summer signings.

daredevil

Sicario2

Not being in the box for Rice's cutback was disappointing.

JazzG

He's just back from injury so will take him time but I fear this guy simply ain't it.

awooga83

JazzG unfortunately there were signs prior to the move which left some questions. His technical quality is low and many of his chances were getting away from poorer defences so that looked to be one of the questions about how that translates to the premier league and it looks not very effectively

daredevil

The most disappointing thing about the dropped points is the lack of impact players like Gyokeres, Madueke, Odegaard, Martinelli and co. have had from the bench. They should be turning the game for us but were completely non-existent.

lorddulaarsenal

daredevil well I’d say they had an impact initially after halftime. Especiallly Trossard

Qwiss

daredevil we were much worse in the first half.

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert

Still angry at Madueke's last two games.

Sicario2

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert I would say last two halves. First half v Brentford I thought he was good. He has shown a clear lack of football IQ since esp with that late chance at the end yesterday. He can be our winger equivalent of Nunez and just cause havoc from the bench which I’m ok with but he does need to improve decision making - he’s not a kid.

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert

Sicario2 yes, he was very refreshing in the first half against Burnley.

Something that seems clear with him is that he can dig out a decent ball with no time to think when he's on the by-line, but when he's at the top corner of the box, with time to think, his crosses (on his strong foot as well) are absolutely dog shit and rarely clear the first man.

Instinct player and he needs to become more than that

tazmania

He dragged two players with him for Trossards goal. He was too busy pressuring their midfield on the cutback from Rice, that's on Arteta for demanding he throws his weight everywhere

lorddulaarsenal

Seeing him in person made me get a better feel for him. My word does he have a good burst. Not sure TV does it justice.

He’s not quite on the same wavelength as the players yet, and his play is definitely less sophisticated, but he has that umph factor.

Think it will click with him. Wouldn’t be surprised if we see him striking up a good partnership with Havertz

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