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Summer 2025 Transfer Window

Doc

with an obi to buy next season would be perfect.. dreams though

Speedster

Newcastle just have PSR holding them back. They have CL this season. Without Isak they won't have it next season. If they force him to say one more year get CL. Then one more year of CL football and they can spend like a pirate.

HomeSteak

Sicario2 A lot? Can you post them, I only saw the one from Jacobs

Sicario2

HomeSteak just general chit chat mate

JazzG

HomeSteak Indy Kaila has said it mate, he's Tier 1 nowadays. We are living in the Matrix!

Sicario2

CPM

Why did we sign Madueke before Rodrygo and/or Eze? We better get at least one of the latter two done. Couldn't we have done this goofy loan/payment structure with Chelsea? So frustrating, we're so good in so many areas but are allergic to bringing in straightforward productive attackers. Everything has to be avant-garde like Havertz and Madueke.

JazzG

CPM Rodrygo still hasn't decided if he wants to stay or leave and doesn't look like Real Madrid have given a firm answer yet either. Talk was always if a deal would be done it would be in August. Also isn't he asking for like over £300k a week, it is a very expensive deal imo.

For Eze Palace are saying release clause with half up front or no sale, as the window goes on that stance will soften. They'll be getting worried as they know he is 27, 2 years left on his contract and they need to buy a replacement. His value will only go down now not up. The fact that other clubs have backed out from approaching him (Chelsea, Bayern Munich and Spurs were all linked) shows he wants to move to us and we just need to be patient and work a deal out.

With Madueke a deal was there to be done there and then so we moved on it. Time will tell if this is a good or bad move but I think he'll do alright for us. Chelsea are quite a black & white club when it comes to transfers, they quote their price and want to get it done quick. As we saw with Sporting some clubs want to drag it out as long as they can and squeeze as much money as possible.

Meatwad

rodrygo really loves real madrid. he's not going to be right for a while after leaving them. he'll just be picking up a paycheck. a loan might be best.

Mirth

Meatwad and he'll be motivated if he thinks there's a chance he can force his way back into Madrid's thinking (there isn't)

GooneriC

I would take Lookman. Offer them Zinny and 12m and get it done

TambourineMan

We came into this summer needing to improve on 3 positions in the first XI - DM, LW and ST. And to improve the first XI, we need genuine world class talent and with Zubi we've added that for the DM position. They only position we have done justice for this summer.

Don't hold anything against the club for Gyokores (as I'd put Sesko and Ekitike) in the same 'maybe WC' boat - a coin flip between the three for who'll turn out to be the best signing. The only genuine world class (Zubi level) ST available this summer would have been Isak and he has Liverpool in his sights.

We've done nothing at LW. Biggest disappointment of the summer so far.

The rest of the signings won't impact our ceiling.

It's been a 6/10 summer. Desperately need a ceiling raising LW (Lookman ain't that guy, btw) to salvage the window.

Burnwinter

We've signed the top scorer in all European leagues for about £80m less than the price quoted to Liverpool for Isak (just the difference is worth a Zubimendi and a half).

We are evidently pursuing a left winger.

Signing Rodrygo has been intractable as the player himself is vacillating (and I wouldn't want him anyway due to that), whereas Eze is already an Arsenal player in his own mind.

Frankly the way we do business now is so very much more compelling than it used to be, and we have so much more clout in the transfer market, that I'm still astounded. Remember how this used to be?

Don Pacifico

Burnwinter you can't argue with the efficiency with which we've done our business.

But I get where TambourineMan is coming from. We've bought a lot of players but other than Zubi, none of them are in that elite tier of players for their respective positions. Gyokeres is good value but he's not Kane or Haaland (not that I'm suggesting either were gettable). PSG have three wingers (and Dembele) who are all superior to Madueke (all of whom cost a comparable amount of money).

It's not to say we won't challenge for the title, but our attack is a little underwhelming in calibre (not numbers!) when you think of how good the players we have at the back are. Pragmatism not idealism I guess but we've been spoilt with some of the attacking lineups we've had in the past.

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert

Either Arteta has little imagination for the attack or KSE need to fuck off, unless they bring in Eze +1 this window.

Mirth

It's nuts calling this a 6/10 summer. Basically signed the most coveted DM and the second most coveted striker in Europe.

Anyway, the problem isn't the players and the focus needs to shift elsewhere - you can swap our front three with PSG and we'll see the same patterns emerge.

JazzG

Mirth It's nuts calling this a 6/10 summer.

It not when you think of it a different way, some just have a default position of everything Arteta is doing is wrong and from that perspective it probably seems like a 6/10 window. Every bad result will provoke the same reaction as well. There are over 3 weeks to go in this window, we are now shifting our focus to moving players on before any more signings. The players we may look to bring in, we probably have personal terms agreed, those clubs will soften their stance as they'll need to bring in replacements so it is a perfectly sensible plan.

It is very obvious people have never run a business before, you could see the knee jerk reaction of Gyokeres but we made sure we forced the issue and did the deal on our own terms. Fans are like just get the player whatever the cost, the structures we have done on those deals probably allows us scope to make another purchase or potentially two. The management need to work in the interest of the club not fans who just want their dopamine rush from transfers.

Burnwinter

Mirth It's nuts calling this a 6/10 summer.

Insisting Gyökeres is some sort of dicey proposition while Isak, whose signing by Liverpool is even less locked in than us signing Eze, and who's a superb player whose injury record is a worry and who scores fewer than Gyökeres for Sweden, is a certain world class proposition, is a strange distortion.

Think about it for a minute: Liverpool is definitely getting Isak but we haven't even been looking for a left winger and won't sign anyone. Sound true to anyone?

That a pretty outrageous distortion is needed to say this is a bad window is what suggests it isn't ...

Gazza M

Mirth we haven't signed a left winger. until that's resolved, it won't rise above a 7 for me. I've shaved off half a point for the noni deal because I still feel it was absurd

Doc

Zubi looks great. Elite player in his position.

Guess it depends how you view the Madueke and Gyok signings... Left side was a fundamental upgrade needed, as much as the striker for me, I don't think Madueke solves that.. so that's a huge issue with the summer transfers so far.

Also, many seem to think Gyok is among the elite strikers in the world, not really for me, although i'm hopeful he can still be decent given the right players around him.

6/10 sounds about right, so far...

awooga83

Doc I agree the LW has been a big problem I also think a creative midfielder would have been good not essential but I think we could use that but certainly LW we should have been taking action on it's not good enough and limits our threat as teams can focus on the right side trying to shut that down.

JazzG

Doc We've lost both our CMs and have signed a top class player in Zubimendi and a very good backup in Norgaard. We've signed a PL level keeper as our backup keeper. A top prospect in defence in Mosquera. Up top we've signed Madueke, who might not be top class yet but has proven he is a very capable player for Chelsea, he offers the team something completely different and can play both wings. Gives us a genuine option when we need to rest Saka or if he was injured. Up top we've signed Gyokeres, I've made my feelings clear on him but he isn't a terrible player, I just don't think he is the right player for us but still we've got a completely different kind of striker to Havertz and in some games I think he'll be very useful to us.

When was the last time Arsenal had as good a window as this? And it isn't done yet, I think there will be at least one more addition this window.

est

JazzG The players we may look to bring in, we probably have personal terms agreed, those clubs will soften their stance as they'll need to bring in replacements so it is a perfectly sensible plan.

This doesn't make sense.

The longer we wait, the less likely it is those clubs can get replacements.

The same goes for sales. If we need to sell Trossard to sign Eze, we should be actively looking to sell him.

At the moment, compared to the previous business we've done in this window and the information that preceded those deals, it's looking like we're not actively doing anything. Rather it seems like we're pretty content with what we've done so far and are just letting the chips fall. If it happens we can sell someone and in turn get Eze, great. If not, it doesn't seem Arteta and co. are that bothered.

Doc

JazzG Yes its been decent (thats what a 6 is for me anyway), sign Eze and it's great, add Rodrygo and its an 11. Like I said, left side is an essential aspect that we needed a significant upgrade, personally don't think that has happened yet.. and we have not solved a major problem we have going forward, which everyone is aware of, creativity and quality centrally... If we hadn't signed a striker until now and added a decent LW & AM who we had grand plans to convert to a striker, I think most on here would not have given it more than a 6... I feel the same way about the left...

yes numbers wise we have moved quick, great.. but the next step for us its to be winning major competitions.. quantity alone isn't enough, and there is an element of it being relative, look at what our rivals are doing.

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