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2024 US Election

Gazza M

Dom im not absolving democrats of their actions. they marketed the cheneys as part of their campaign for goodness sake. I'm saying it goes against one of the main narratives that trump is the anti-war choice. and its not just fox news guy im referring to. he's appointing Marco rubio as secretary of state and Elise Stefanik as UN ambassador, both of whom have a hawkish history regarding the Gaza and ukraine conflicts, and the withdrawal from afghanistan. in any case, as you say, it will be a revolving door administration based on whoever is on trumps good side on any given day

Claudius

Gazza M there's no good choice for Palestinians out of this 2 party system in America. Only the left of the Democratic Party exhibits any humanity and has not been completely blinded by Zionist propaganda

JazzG

Joe looks like he is beaming from ear to ear....

Coombs

JazzG probably voted for Trump.

QuincyAbeyie

Claudius

QuincyAbeyie it’s beyond absurd, Quince.

JazzG

I've seen about 20 variations of that joke today!

I would comment about the Americans but here in the UK we are doing things the proper way. The government have recently announced a Value for Money chief who worked on projects like the London Olympics, Parliament's restoration and HS2...

Burnwinter

Bread and circuses. What Trump's re-election tells us is that imperial decline isn't a trajectory you can readily halt from inside the vehicle.

If you've ever wondered why the Romans let Nero fiddle while the city burned, this is more or less the demonstration of the principle. It turns out a great military power on the way down has a very weird momentum about it.

MistaT

Matt Gaetz as Attorney General is the most offensive of all the nominations.

Little fucker has more legal experience from his underage/trafficking case than from his career in law.

Burnwinter

People will go berserk about all these utterly terrible appointments, but it's not as if the system doesn't permit it. Constitutionally things can and probably will get stupider and more reckless from here.

Claudius

I love it. I love that Trump and learned from his previous mistakes. He wants a real MAGA republic. Unhindered. Good for him

JazzG

Coombs lol there has been that rumour going around.

When you look at them happily sitting together having a jolly time and then a few weeks ago Democrats are comparing Trump to Hitler and calling him a fascist...

Coombs

JazzG it's all in good fun. It's just politics, not real life.

JazzG

Coombs I do think a lot of this politics is a bit of theatre. Families and friends have fallen out of their politics whereas the politicians themselves usually have good relations with each other!

JazzG

Some wild picks by Trump, I am guessing he thinks he can strong arm the Republicans in the Senate to push these through.

banduan

It'd be interesting to see the fallout in 3-4 years when an antivaxxer heads health. At least I guess he might throw a curveball to Big Pharma.

JazzG

banduan It'd be interesting to see the fallout in 3-4 years when an antivaxxer heads health. At least I guess he might throw a curveball to Big Pharma.

I'm a bit mixed on RFK Jr, some of the stuff about vaccines is crazy but he is completely right about all the shit they put in American food. Remember on Reddit a few years back a post comparing UK to US products and was crazy how many extra things they add in.

Similarly the Pharmaceutical companies don't exactly deserve to be treated lightly.

Qwiss

JazzG I remember reading about a load of chemicals and stuff they were allowed to put in food advertised as "Organic" in the US that was outright banned in the EU.

Gazza M

JazzG I'm interested to see if RFK affects enough change to ruffle corporate America and big agricultures feathers, and if trump tells him to stand down as a result. they seem to think he's just going to gut the FDA, but i saw him talking about taking on coca cola about some of their products ingredients. some interesting dynamics at play there

MistaT

Gazza M — be interesting to see what happens to the corn industry if there’s tariffs and RFK/FDA pressure to move away from corn syrup.

And at the end of the day, the chemicals are nasty, but the bigger issue is how much high fructose corn syrup (sugar) is added to all food.

JazzG

Gazza M I'm interested to see if RFK affects enough change to ruffle corporate America and big agricultures feathers, and if trump tells him to stand down as a result. they seem to think he's just going to gut the FDA, but i saw him talking about taking on coca cola about some of their products ingredients. some interesting dynamics at play there

That dynamic will be interesting, Trump is known to flip flop but RFK will be wanting to go hard I think. Maybe they compromise in the middle or it all goes tits up!

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