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Artetaball Tactics Thread

RocktheCasbah

Pepe LeFrits or actually had that many injuries.

Saka must be close to the top of the list of players Mikel absolutely wouldn't want to lose to injury, so as I said in the match thread, he must trust Saka to manage his way through games. And to be fair, he has way more data on Bukayo than we do.

Five days now till the next game. I didn't see us on Saturday but from what I've read, Saka's performance tonight looked like a clear improvement?

JazzG

Qwiss

MistaT So what's the theory on why Arteta plays Saka so much?

Because he's our best player. Same reason City play Haaland so much and Liverpool play Salah so much. Hopefully when Noni is back he'll start regularly coming off at 60 minutes and sitting out some of the cup games.

JazzG

Further proof we play with the highest defensive line and play against the lowest.

Qwiss

JazzG a sign that its going to be very difficult to break down Sunderlands low block without any of our strikers. Save me big Mikel M you're my only hope!

Gazza M

JazzG dec and gabby have a plan for that

Tam

That's not further proof, that's the same graph you posted last week.

Meatwad

Tam
we have to park the bus in the opposition half so we can get our set piece game going.

JazzG

Tam And the graphs will continue until our fanbase understands 😉

Tam

Qwiss Target Xhaka!

Xhaka yellow card against us has got to be one of the banker bets of the season.

USArsenal

Tam if he REALLY still loves Arsenal, he'll get himself sent off. 😃

awooga83

USArsenal 😂 he threw the armband down and told the fans to fuck off, not sure he loves us that much .But hopefully can rely on him losing his head at some point

Qwiss

USArsenal he must have loved a lot of clubs over the years.

Tam

JazzG people understand.

They’re just allowed to have different thoughts and opinions on how we might go about doing things.

Meatwad

according to Ox it was Arteta as a player that demanded to see video of the opposition since Wenger had no interest in looking at what they were doing.

if it doesn't load to the timestamped portion, you can copy/paste this

https://youtu.be/gv1_FFWl_IY?si=n09qW9SEuj3IcdrX&t=4176

i just knew Arsene traumatized this man and he said that will never be me.

JazzG

Meatwad I think we touched on this before about people around Wenger, he had the same core people around him for years and years. Heinze has come in and from the sound of things is doing alright and bringing his own ideas and sometimes you need that. I even spoke about Fergie and how under each assistant coach you could see how they changed and each one bought in a different skill set. Wenger had Primorac and they had their way and that was it.

Ox talks about it in this video about how Klopp had his teams conditioned and they basically suffocated teams on the pitch, every opposition was analysed and while Wenger had maybe a more pure vision of how things should be done. Problem was with this more analysed form of football those old ways simply did not work any more. The only team who have managed to have a more free system is probably Real Madrid under Ancelotti but that only worked because of the calibre of player they had. They literally had legendary players all over the pitch to be able to play and win like that.

Tam Fair enough

daredevil

Meatwad

Wenger wasn't alone in that - Ferguson was the same. Rio spoke about how he knew Moyes wasn't the man because he was asking the players to consider the opposition and blames Ferguson for the lack of prep in the finals against Barca.

Obviously, Ferguson must have done some prep, namely against us, but it seems like he too was fixated on his strengths and not the oppositions.

Dom

The stuff about Klopp was very interesting and exactly what I imagined Klopp was like as a coach and a chemist.

Mirth

daredevil the difference is Ferguson brought in coaches that were tacticians so that he focused more on the man management side. Wenger didn’t delegate.

Burnwinter

https://www.cannonstats.com/p/arsenal-compared-to-expectations

Decent stats roundup on the season to date. Shorter version: we're tracking well, but our offensive numbers are well below expectations starting with a big deficit on shots on goal. So far our exceptional defence is compensating for this to spare all blushes and we're sitting on a 95 point pace.

awooga83

Burnwinter so the concerns that have been expressed about the attack are shown in the stats as well. I think that is a worry for me, maybe none of our rivals will be anywhere near consistent enough to apply pressure but I think that aspect is normally something a title winning side would need to be better at. Holding on for 1-0 is great but we've seen many times in previous seasons how that had adversely impacted us with draws or conceding one meaning we can not turn it round.

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