JazzG wrote:
goon wrote:
From my experience the older generation from former colonies., at least in South Asia, seem to look up the British and admire the Royals. I guess in some way it sort of proves Coombs point, but mostly it’s just pragmatism. It’s actually the younger second or third generation immigrants from there that seem to hold on more to past wrongs and have a more idealistic view on the past - though really I don’t think most of them care either beyond the surface.
In my experience the older generations were too busy working their arse off for the kids to give a shit about things like this. Mostly a lot less bitter about life as well and very much of the mentality that they needed to work hard for their families, not looking towards others for help or others to blame for their own failures. I think they're very aware of what happened under British Rule but that was a long time ago, I mean probably most of those people are dead by now so how long you gonna hold a grudge for?
I have loads of South Asian friends and met many of their families and they talk about families back in India/Pakistan. All talk about how shit their country's governments are and they were given a fair chance here to do well and grateful. They still are very attached to back home and a lot of them still send money back home to help as things haven't got much better for their families. They do however say when they came in the 60s/70s there was a lot of racism and resentment towards them. Said they kept their head down and kept working and people have come to accept them. A lot of the kids are now highly educated and in good jobs. Parents made sure they pushed them hard when it came to Education.
jones wrote:
For what it's worth I thought I was plenty respectful to any Brits who might feel offended, considering the crown's actions even just in her time I'd be well in my rights to change tune. Like Coombs said though no point celebrating the death of the Queen, like Clrnc said it's wrong and I sure don't want to end up in hell with her.
You just can't help yourself can you....
No I can't, we're all the product of our environment and the sum of our experiences. Just like the rest of your predictable post above which I could've typed out in your stead verbatim - governments abroad are shit, Europe gave them a fair chance, anyone who disagrees is "bitter", doesn't have a good mentality, looks for the easy way out always looking to blame others instead of pulling themselves up by their bootstraps etc
If you're genuinely asking "how long you're gonna hold a grudge" - how about at least until colonialism ends?
When my father was born my home country was officially even a French protectorate, when my mother went to school even after their government left the country she witnessed the French literally get away with murder. The Spanish dropped German made chemical bombs on the North of the country in a region that contains about 3% of the population but around half of all people suffering from cancer. I visited the region last week for a couple days and I've never seen so many disabled and deformed people in my life. Back in the day I used to care for a Kenyan neighbour who lost a leg and a hand in a British concentration camp during the Mau Mau revolt, he's part of the older generation but I'm pretty sure you'd describe him as bitter too for not being fond of the British.
Even if you wanted to ignore all this as anecdotal the least you could do is acknowledge people's experiences when they differ from yours.