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Top 4 this season, is it achievable?

flobaba

Falling into this category (for now). What's the point in bitching about it is the path I came through to get there though. And as much as I dislike the football, ultimately we are winning, and some good play is speckled here and there.

I'd definitely take this to Wenger's retirement years.

Burnwinter

I find it immensely preferable.

Here's the XI we put out when we beat Fulham 5–1 in 17-18, one of that season's best results.

Leno
Bellerin Mustafi Holding Monreal
Xhaka Torreira
Mkhitaryan Iwobi
Welbeck Lacazette

Yeah we had other players on the roster (Sokratis, Auba, Özil, Ramsey etc) but who really wants to return to that? The "hungry lads" we've got now are so much more fun.

We weren't developing anything back then, we were just bolting more discarded organs onto Frankenstein season by season and praying for lightning.

Anzac

Burnwinter wrote:
We weren't developing anything back then, we were just bolting more discarded organs onto Frankenstein season by season and praying for lightning.

Brilliant.

Ricky1985

[Twitter]

And we have Martin fucking Atkinson for the Wolves game.

QuincyAbeyie

I've stopped caring what referee we get. Are any of them not terrible?

jones

English refs are singular in world football, worse decisions than in 2005 Serie A and I'm not even joking. Richest league in the world, best players from every country come flocking yet funnily enough every ref happens to come from North of the river Trent. What are you supposed to expect from an organisation though whose members are only admitted when they can provide evidence of their parents' direct kinship.

Everyone likes to think they're getting singled out but it's gotten so bad it's become a meme in German (non Arsenal) football forums how we get fucked over every single match day. When in the future one day the PGMOL is publicly disgraced we might be able to laugh at all that happened, until then clips like the above aren't therapy they're the exact opposite ffs.

Clrnc

As long as Mike Riley (who fucking hate us) is still in charge nothing will change. At least finally our manager have the balls to call them out.

Burnwinter

If we get any more close call reds in the next month or so I get the sense popular opinion will start to favour us.

flobaba

That’s the point of putting pressure publicly on the refs. The noise gets loud enough and they will feel the sense of general outrage and extra scrutiny, and eventually start calling things more in our favor.

goon

Martin Atkinson the ref on Thursday, he's definitely bottom 5.

Big Willie

Ricky1985 wrote:
[Twitter]

And we have Martin fucking Atkinson for the Wolves game.

Tweet removed lol

Qwiss

Burnwinter wrote:
If we get any more close call reds in the next month or so I get the sense popular opinion will start to favour us.

Do you think? I doubt it. All I see is the rest of the football world looking at our red card decisions and saying "yeah fair enough". Even for the crazy Martinelli red the vast majority of what I read outside of Arsenal circles was "well yeah they are both fair yellow cards". The cards have to be really outrageous to get support outside your own fans.

Ricky1985

goon wrote:
Martin Atkinson the ref on Thursday, he's definitely bottom 5.

[Twitter]
He's absolutely useless.

Big Willie

Ricky1985 wrote:
goon wrote:
Martin Atkinson the ref on Thursday, he's definitely bottom 5.

[Twitter]
He's absolutely useless.

Not just him. They all are. Take a look at this thread. Doesn't even include all the red cards we got in comparison to the shit that Mane, Maguire et al got let off for.

[Twitter]

Shady

Martin Atkinson is possibly the one I hate most. Old, blind tosser. He is useless.

Anzac

Ricky1985 wrote:
goon wrote:
Martin Atkinson the ref on Thursday, he's definitely bottom 5.

[Twitter]
He's absolutely useless.

Ah yes but it's also the Xhaka effect.

goon

Clear favourites for 4th with the bookies now, suspect if we win tomorrow we may even become odds on.

Shady

To reach 70 points:

Arsenal:

3 points: Watford (A), Leicester (H), Palace (A), Brighton (H), Leeds (H), Newcastle (A), Everton (H)

1 point: Villa (A), Southampton (A), Man Utd (H), West Ham (A)

0 points: Chelsea (A), Liverpool (H), Spurs (A)

Man Utd:

3 points: Watford (H), Spurs (H), Leicester (H), Norwich (H), Brentford (H), Brighton (A), Palace (A),

1 point: Everton (A), Arsenal (A), Chelsea (H),

0 points: Man City (A), Liverpool (A),

Spurs:

3 points: Leeds (A), Everton (H), West Ham (H), Newcastle (H), Brighton (H), Brentford (A), Leicester (H), Burnley (H), Norwich (A)

1 point: Man Utd (A), Brighton (A), Villa (A), Arsenal (H)

0 points: Liverpool (A)

Qwiss

Who are we supposed to be worried about now?

Shady

Qwiss! wrote:
Who are we supposed to be worried about now?

Ourselves. Take care of our own business and we'll get top 4.

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