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Man-God Gabriel

KingslandBarge

Segway I think he's up there. If we're looking for something that sets him apart, then his contribution on offensive corners and set-pieces comes to mind.

Clrnc

I am Arsenal Till I Die no more weak ass defenders that are good on the ball and just decent defensively. We need super powers like these 2.

They are really different level. I said they are the best cb partnership we had since invincibles at the start of the season prematurely and I still stand by it

RocktheCasbah

Clrnc They need to keep it going across the season, but I'm with you. I never understood why Arsene turned away from the idea of having two supreme athletes at the back (as he had in the Invincible season) and went down some of the roads we did in the years following. Been pining for a partnership like Gabriel & Saliba for - well, 20 years now - and look what's happening now we have it. They're both magnificent.

KingslandBarge

I have them above Vermaelen/Gallas and Kolo/Gallas now but as much as I am smitten, not yet above Koscielny/Per. For me, they need to seal the deal with some silverware and match with a feat like Kos+Per's unbeaten record. To Saliba and Gabriel's credit, the opposition quality level seems like its never been more demanding.

Clrnc

KingslandBarge Per and Kos was a decent partnership, similar level to Gallas and Kolo but they simply were on the end of too many thrashings to be rated that highly for me.

Per was far too slow and can't pass well to be in this discussion imo. Kos was probably a better Ben White but always question marks about him mentally. Amazing peaks though unbeatable 1v1

JazzG

Going into the World Cup Saliba was probably performing better but since the restart Gabriel has been immense,

Sometimes partnerships just click and these two look like they've been playing together for years.

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert

Clrnc Kos' pace as well was 03/04 Touré level.

MistaT

Gabriel/Saliba are easily ahead of Per/Kos for the standard they've set in the league.

They may have been shielded though from the challenges of Champions League, which is where we saw Per/Kos get shredded by Barca and Bayern a little too often.

Gurgen

MistaT To be fair that was usually Djourou and Kos or some other shitster and Kos.

Clrnc

Low key best CB in the league

Claudius

This guy was immense yesterday. I hope we keep pumping out clean sheets so we get past this ridiculous headline of him being hot-headed and unreliable because he could be the best we’ve had since Sol.

est

I keep repeating myself, but I wouldn't swap our CB duo for any other in world football.

The guys who scouted/pulled through the transfers for Gabriel and Saliba are absolute heroes.

To think of all the shitsters we've had at the heart of our defence over the last 15+ years. Ugh. This feels like heaven at the moment.

Gurgen

And they've got a good 7-10 years to go

KingslandBarge

Thought that was his poorest performance of the season on Wednesday. Sucked to see him like that but they exploited the space in front of our CBs, we weren't ready and it caused instability.

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert

He's absolutely awful at the moment. Nervy as shit due to who his partner is.

However he also really looks exposed as when he's wide on the touch line and has to get the ball up the pitch. It usually goes out for a throw. Compare that to the way Walker and Stones played the ball in similar circumstances.

awooga83

I think Gabriel is a relatively poor defender, he always has some poor decisions on a match and has cost us quite a few moments throughout the season. Obviously when Saliva is there that have a decent partnership but I'm not sure he's that good of defender just okay in my book but I think it's somewhere we could improve in time where we've sorted some other positions first.

RocktheCasbah

awooga83 that's a bit harsh to say he's "poor" given he's babysitting Rob Holding and a left back who's really a central midfielder at the moment.

RocktheCasbah

RocktheCasbah I was actually wondering whether it might solidify us a bit to bring KT back in and give Gabriel some help. I know KT can't do what Zinchenko does, but it's not like his left foot is a club foot either.

Gazza M

RocktheCasbah pretty much. gab and willy have been largely phenomenal this season. their athleticism and speed was one the main reasons we were able to execute our suffocating style of play, and push our players so high up the pitch. playing the way we do with both zinny and holding in the lineup gives gabriel too much water to carry defensively.

in saying that, I didn't really like the way he defended KDB for the opener. it was in his power to close that down way better

Qwiss

Think he's been one of the few who's looked anyway close to decent in recent weeks and with probably the hardest job in team, I think people fail to appreciate he's usually playing centre back and left back when the opposition has the ball in transition. Add in Salibas injury and what appears to be Partey playing while unfit and its a near impossible job.

Burnwinter

Qwiss I think people fail to appreciate he's usually playing centre back and left back when the opposition has the ball in transition

This is it, he's expected to cover a paddock and any time we concede through that area, literally a fifth of the whole pitch by area, people are like "and where was Gabriel?" It's similar to how Kos used to get hung out to dry. He's been exposed on his left more often in recent weeks which is probably because he's had to look to his right more.

QuincyAbeyie

In general I think too many players have been reevaluated in a kneejerk manner after the last few games.

Qwiss

QuincyAbeyie definitely. Except for all the ones I'm giving out about.

Clrnc

He's not even close to being awful BBKG. Dont know what you are watching. I mean sure if you take it without context his performance against Citeh, but he was mostly left 2v1, 3v1 against their attackers running directly at him. The world best out and out striker and probably the world most productive playmaker

goon

Clrnc he's also been having to deal with a lot of high turnovers where we give the ball away deep and he's having to react in an unexpected position. The penalty vs West Ham and the Theo goal both coming in that scenario.

I did say earlier on in the season during Europa games that both he and Saliba look noticeably better when playing with each other though.

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert

Clrnc yeah my knee was jerking massively. Just needed a quick easy target as I'm still so pissed off at our form.

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