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Premier League 21/22

goon

Yup, I said as much when people were praising them and Ancelotti at the start of last season, all their signings were either past their peak or soon to be, and aside from Allan none of them were particularly good in the first place. Their decline was so inevitable.

But yeah, the Usmanov sanctions have done them over and the new stadium project is probably done. They're going to be in serious financial doo doo whether they're relegated or not.

Qwiss

TBF they paid a reasonable price for most of them. And we were still playing Willian, Ceballos, etc

Tam

Clrnc wrote:
Tam wrote:
My guess is it’s a technical thing to do with time limits and new charges.

Topical but on a much lower level, is that lower league Scottish club Raith Rovers are facing a backlash at the moment because they signed David Goodwillie, who had spells at Blackburn and Blackpool so the name might be familiar.

In 2016 he was found guilty in a civil trial of rape, in a case brought by the victim after a criminal case didn’t go ahead. The burden of proof in the civil case was lower, and the judge ruled Goodwillie and another had raped the victim and she was awarded compensation. It was also later upheld in an appeal court.

Clubs still signed Goodwillie and faced criticism for it. Raith Rovers are just the latest, and their statement today in response to the backlash is quite staggering.

They have reversed the decision after huge fan backlash and the Scottish current and ex PM criticised the move.

Just curious though, why was he able to play for his current League 1 team without much backlash though for 4 years now?

Apologies for dragging the thread off topic again, but there's been a further twist in this tale.

Raith Rovers decided they wouldn't play Goodwillie and a few days ago announced he would return to Clyde (his previous club) on loan.

The backlash that wasn't evident previously at Clyde came this time Clrnc. The whole Clyde ladies team resigned and the local council, who own Clyde's stadium, effectively banned Goodwillie from entering it and threatened to end Clyde's lease if he did so. The council are citing a clause about restricting entry for those with "undesirable behaviour" as the reason and pointing to Goodwillie's lack of contrition as justification. The council also say they didn't have legal control of the stadium previously, hence no action when he signed a few years ago.

So as a result of all that Clyde are now terminating Goodwillie's loan agreement, which means he'll no doubt be sent back to Raith Rovers, who have said they won't play him.

A lawyer for his victim is also working to mount a private prosecution to have him convicted criminally for his crime.

But at least he received an apology on air from this guy

jones

😆 I saw that clip yesterday, had no idea it was about this guy.

Goes without saying that rapists are the lowest of the low on earth but I'm not sure having the public turn into vigilantes is a good development. Sure in this case it looks like it's well deserved - even if there were no criminal proceedings, what I've read in witness statements sounds bad - but there's always the danger of setting a precedent with people who have 'only' been accused of having committed whatever crime.

Tam

This case is a bit different because when a criminal trial didn't proceed, the victim pursued and won civil court proceedings for damages, but which was really for recognition of their actions. So he has been found guilty of rape in court, albeit on the lower evidential standard of balance of probabilities rather than beyond reasonable doubt.

jones

Yeah I got that Tam which is why I said in this case it seems justified. Rape is a horrific crime to be accused of but infinitely worse to be the victim of and while the level of evidence wasn't enough for a criminal case it was enough for a civil case conviction. Just saying I feel uneasy about punishment by the public because while in this case it looks like the guy deserves it doesn't mean it should be meted out by just anyone.

Clrnc

Tam wrote:
The backlash that wasn't evident previously at Clyde came this time Clrnc. The whole Clyde ladies team resigned and the local council, who own Clyde's stadium, effectively banned Goodwillie from entering it and threatened to end Clyde's lease if he did so. The council are citing a clause about restricting entry for those with "undesirable behaviour" as the reason and pointing to Goodwillie's lack of contrition as justification. The council also say they didn't have legal control of the stadium previously, hence no action when he signed a few years ago.

So as a result of all that Clyde are now terminating Goodwillie's loan agreement, which means he'll no doubt be sent back to Raith Rovers, who have said they won't play him.

A lawyer for his victim is also working to mount a private prosecution to have him convicted criminally for his crime.

But at least he received an apology on air from this guy

Interesting update thanks, haven't saw this on social media at all unlike the previous backlash. Begs the question now then why the hell the Clyde circle is suddenly angry after 6 years? 😆 Unless all of them didn't know about the case previously till Raith Rovers brought it up.

That clip 😆

TambourineMan

Dewsbury-Hall is an interesting looking player. He has something about him. I'll think he'll have a good career.

flobaba

Let's go Palace.

TambourineMan

Glad Paddy V is doing well over at Palace. The media were giddy at the start of the season about how he'd be the first manager sacked etc. He's been proving a lot of people wrong and doing it with a young squad. Good man.

Sicario

Another good week for Potter I see

Clrnc

Luis Diaz is absolutely incredible to watch. I knew Liverpool frontline will go up another level with him, but thought it would be Mane getting dropped not Jota who has been scoring regularly.

TambourineMan

Diaz was such an obvious talent after the Copa. Liverpool keep making such smart signings.

Qwiss

Sicario wrote:
Another good week for Potter I see

They lost away to an inform team that spent a ton in the transfer window. Its hardly embarrassing for Potter. Not that it matters much anyway because Brightons seasons practically over as he's already assured that they'll stay up.

goon

Good start. Don’t fuck this up again.

Shady

KDB! Lovely

KurtEisner

Is that Gary Neville commentating? In a fucking derby of all games? 😆

Big Willie

Does that McTominay guy do anything aside from foul?

goon

Fuck City, honestly.

Big Willie

Fuck right off. How much space you gonna give him?

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