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Qwiss

Claudius wrote:
So I would buy Szoboszlai. The guys finished top 8 in this year’s golden boy awards. It’s a no brained for a team that a) needs creative help and b) can pick up a future star for _£20m.

And then I would start shifting the old men. Pretty much leave Aubameyang, Willian and Luiz. And even they can be discussed at the end of the season. And really start to learn about the kids. And figure out who you want to sell / keep.

Never say this if you are in Ireland.

We should have been focussed on youth all along. Arteta has made his bed though, he bought Willian and resigned Luiz while taking about a title within 3 years. Thats the path he chose and now he has to live with it. If he goes we need a manager who is focussed on the future, on the young players and we need a longer term strategy. No more has beens on big wages and we need to cash in on players who are doing well but getting on, even if they are our biggest stars.

Claudius

Goodness. That’s not what I meant at all 😆

Gazza M

😆 shift some codgers claud

flobaba

Qwiss! wrote:
Claudius wrote:
So I would buy Szoboszlai. The guys finished top 8 in this year’s golden boy awards. It’s a no brained for a team that a) needs creative help and b) can pick up a future star for _£20m.

And then I would start shifting the old men. Pretty much leave Aubameyang, Willian and Luiz. And even they can be discussed at the end of the season. And really start to learn about the kids. And figure out who you want to sell / keep.

Never say this if you are in Ireland.

We should have been focussed on youth all along. Arteta has made his bed though, he bought Willian and resigned Luiz while taking about a title within 3 years. Thats the path he chose and now he has to live with it. If he goes we need a manager who is focussed on the future, on the young players and we need a longer term strategy. No more has beens on big wages and we need to cash in on players who are doing well but getting on, even if they are our biggest stars.

You’re speaking my native tongue sir.

I hope I can say that in Ireland.

Qwiss

Claudius wrote:
Goodness. That’s not what I meant at all 😆

Each to their own Claud, you do you.

lorddulaarsenal

What does it mean?

To nudge the fudge?

Meatwad

google says to bang 'em.

Qwiss

Kissing with tongues, French style

MistaT

Leaning to Buendia over Szoboszlai, as I think we could get something out of this season with:

Saka---Auba---Pepe---
--Buendia--Ceballos--
-------Partey--------

There's goals a plenty there and it would actually let us have possession in central areas. We'd be asking a lot of Partey in matches where we're overwhlemed, but with Gabriel/Holding behind it's not too bad.

lorddulaarsenal

I’m reaching a new level where I’m starting to lose interest in transfer windows.

We just never do enough.

It’s staggering just how much player churn we need.

Claudius

I seek only the banishment of those who would hurt us.

Gazza M

If we're serious we get buendia and szobozlai. Ceballos is off in the summer, and xhaka needs to be binned asap. Get the 2 replacements in now

Coombs

Let's get Aouar. New CF and another CM in the summer. Sell as many as we reasonably can. Play 343/442 to maximize Saka and Auba.

Gazza M

Aouar has said he's not moving in jan

Clrnc

Gazza M wrote:
If we're serious we get buendia and szobozlai. Ceballos is off in the summer, and xhaka needs to be binned asap. Get the 2 replacements in now

Partey
Buendia Szobo

This midfield will work

goon

Fabrizio has said he expects us to to do something special in Jan, Orny saying he expects us to be active, looks like it will be a fun window. Hope we can act in advance of the window actually opening.

There is a side issue though. We need to de-register as many as we sign.

speedy

goon wrote:
Fabrizio has said he expects us to to do something special in Jan, Orny saying he expects us to be active, looks like it will be a fun window. Hope we can act in advance of the window actually opening.

There is a side issue though. We need to de-register as many as we sign.

Sok is likely to sign on a free with a German club and I'd imagine we'll release him early to them.

Qwiss

speedy wrote:
goon wrote:
Fabrizio has said he expects us to to do something special in Jan, Orny saying he expects us to be active, looks like it will be a fun window. Hope we can act in advance of the window actually opening.

There is a side issue though. We need to de-register as many as we sign.

Sok is likely to sign on a free with a German club and I'd imagine we'll release him early to them.

He's not registered though, neither is Ozil.

Here's who is

Alves Soares, Cedric Ricardo

Aubameyang, Pierre-Emerick
Bellerin, Hector*
Borges Da Silva, Willian
Ceballos Fernandez, Daniel
Chambers, Calum*
Dos Santos Magalhaes, Gabriel
Elneny, Mohamed Naser Elsayed
Holding, Robert Samuel*
Kolasinac, Sead
Lacazette, Alexandre
Leno, Bernd
Macey, Matthew Ryan*
Maitland-Niles, Ainsley*
Mari Villar, Pablo
Moreira Marinho, David Luiz
Mustafi, Shkodran
Partey, Thomas Teye
Pepe, Nicolas
Runarsson, Runar Alex
Tierney, Kieran
Xhaka, Granit

From that list I think maybe Mustafi, Cedric, AMN, Mari and Chambers are the likely candidates to be sold or go out on loan.

Claudius

The more I see the way things are panning out with Arteta and the team, the more I wonder if we have the right plan. Midfield is such a chaos zone simply because we are being outmuscled every week that I am wondering if we should simply focus on addressing that. Bring in some muscular boys who can run all day. The primary thing that seems to be happening to Xhaka, and a lesser extent Ceballos is they are getting overrun and pushed all the way back until they're in line with central defenders. Even in games where they start high. They don't have the pace and power to outrun their opponents in either direction.

Unless we are going to find unicorns like Patrick Vieira, I think we need to emphasise workhorses in that midfield. I would look to put a killer deal in front of Leeds for Kalvin Philips. He's 24, got a nice mix of skills. Otherwise look around at other young multi-talented physical midfielders like Locatelli. Ward-Prowse is another guy who's skyrocketed in the past year. His defensive PERs have doubled in in the last 12 months plus his offensive output in the run of play and on set pieces is excellent.

Have these guys with Partey and Elneny. Immediately loan Xhaka to Gladbach. Maybe even recall Guendouzi if you can save face. Then you can start to have combative midfields.

Qwiss

I think we need someone more physical and more defensive than Partey, not to pair him with a couple of attacking mids. Someone who's strong defensively and will link the defence and attack quickly when we play out from the back would be the best player for Arteta.

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