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La Liga 20/21

Klaus

How do you mean?

QuincyAbeyie

Klaus has always been a fan of his,just doesn't think the timing is right for him to leave yet if I remember correctly. He's the kind of discount Haaland player that we'd probably have a shot at getting though.

Klaus

Oh that. Yeah, Quincy summarised it well. I don't think it's the right time for him to move, and I don't think he would be interested in it at the moment even if Sociedad were willing to sell. He's a pretty grounded person. He'll make sure to do what's best for his development, and I think that means staying in Spain for a few years.

He has talked a lot about how Dortmund treated him, which is always a risk you're taking when you move young, and doubly so when you move to a big club like Arsenal. He was lucky in a way that he was only 17 when he arrived at Dortmund because it gave him plenty of time to start over somewhere else. Wasting another transfer would put him in his mid-20s though.

Claudius

I know. You were nervous about his development last we spoke about him. I thought he could make the jump like Odegaard and you said he’s had too much instability. But after this season, do you think he’s doing still need another year to stay settled in Spain? Or he can handle a move?

I think as a mid price long term striker, he fits the bill. Especially now that ESr has killed the need for Lacazette’s alleged hold up play.

Klaus

I think he'll need a few more years probably. He wasn't even a regular when this season started. There's still growing to be done. You see it with the national team too, he's got a massive frame but a bit boyish physique still and it's holding him back. He reminds me a lot of Ibrahimovic circa 2002 in that respect actually.

I think he's probably already out of any reasonable price range anyway. Real Sociedad know how talented he is and what the going rate for a great striker will be a year or two from now.

Claudius

Depends what reasonable is. If he’s 50-60% of the Mbappé/Haaland price, that’s worth a shot. I’m imagining around what we paid for Laca and Auba.

jones

Far too much for him. 60m would be an insane fee, much better strikers will go for less than that.

Clrnc

He's still quite raw, I agree with Klaus. We'd be smart to buy him now but he won't be a ready starter material for a top 4 team.

Against United he really struggled badly with physical play. Totally out of the game

Claudius

Fortunately his transfer was only €10m, so even €40m would be a massive multiple. I actually thought they’d bought him for more.

mentalvortex

Keep in mind that Dortmund still have a 30 million buy back clause which is valid till end of this summer.

There have been reports that Isak not wanting to go back due to past experiences.

However a new coaching staff is coming in along with Michael Zorc, the sporting director, retiring this summer.

Mislintat (who signed Isak at Dortmund in the first place) is rumored to be the heavy favorite to take over.

So things might change quickly with the Isak situation.

Claudius

Would be a smart pickup to replace Haaland if he’s willing to go back. Not that he’d get Haaland numbers

jones

mentalvortex wrote:
Keep in mind that Dortmund still have a 30 million buy back clause which is valid till end of this summer.

There have been reports that Isak not wanting to go back due to past experiences.

However a new coaching staff is coming in along with Michael Zorc, the sporting director, retiring this summer.

Mislintat (who signed Isak at Dortmund in the first place) is rumored to be the heavy favorite to take over.

So things might change quickly with the Isak situation.

Zorc is retiring summer 2022, not this summer. Mislintat is indeed favoured to take over from him but it'll probably have no impact on Isaks situation.

Klaus

He did an interview in Sweden where they asked him about the clause and he just said the choice is his and he's not intending to go back. Things could always change, but I think there will be much better clubs than Dortmund trying to sign him in a few years anyway.

jones

Yeah not the first guy who said the club treated him like shit. Immobile said the same and of course the rabid fans and xenophobic media went and blamed it on him. Good on Isak if he gives them the finger after he's come good.

Claudius

Jones, please give us your ranking of bastard clubs.

Bryant

omg lol

Big Willie

Read the follow up tweets Bryant, the picture was edited. Still looks like a hobo in the original though.

Bryant

Big Willie wrote:
Read the follow up tweets Bryant, the picture was edited. Still looks like a hobo in the original though.

ahh thanks for the catch Big Willie!

Claudius

Sounds about right
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flobaba

Mes que un club - un criminal enterprise

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