Saw a headline/post he played for Lyon overnight in his first game back from injury since Dec.
Lyon won 12-0 & Depay played 90 mins and had 4 goals and 4 assists.

He already proved at United that he needs time and space that doesn't exist in Premier League in order to perform. He'll have a nice old time in leagues like Eredivise and Ligue 1 and he'll probably flop again if we pick him up.

And he's coming off a torn ACL.

I wonder if the transfer team is considering a Lacazette-Depay trade if they are that serious.

Personally think he’s a talent. Not sure United was the right environment for him.

Only makes sense if Auba is definitely going. And the price would need to be pretty reasonable.

Klaus wrote:

He already proved at United that he needs time and space that doesn't exist in Premier League in order to perform. He'll have a nice old time in leagues like Eredivise and Ligue 1 and he'll probably flop again if we pick him up.

Zaha failed and then shredded the league after. Di Maria failed and he's world class on his day. United were playing long ball tactics. Even on crosses they were endlessly looking for the back post rather than the clever cross. It was a difficult team to play for. Martial has been really inconsistent there aswell. 

speedy wrote:
Klaus wrote:

He already proved at United that he needs time and space that doesn't exist in Premier League in order to perform. He'll have a nice old time in leagues like Eredivise and Ligue 1 and he'll probably flop again if we pick him up.

Zaha failed and then shredded the league after. Di Maria failed and he's world class on his day. United were playing long ball tactics. Even on crosses they were endlessly looking for the back post rather than the clever cross. It was a difficult team to play for. Martial has been really inconsistent there aswell. 

I think they were failing for different reasons though, that's what I got from watching them back then. Di Maria had motivational issues after realising what a houseboat club he had signed for and Zaha as you say was done in by their tactics, and I don't think it helped that he was really immature as a person back then either. He needed to grow up a bit.

Memphis by contrast always got plenty of ball, he just couldn't do anything with it because defenders in England actually press ball-carrying forwards. He would look like a complete dick every league game. Then they'd get drawn against Club Brügge in Champions League, there would be acres of space, and Depay would walk away with a MOTM performance where he dribbled people for fun. All the classic signs of a shitster who isn't good enough to perform on the highest level and is too stubborn to change his game.

I haven't seen anything from Lyon this season, but I watched them a couple of times last year and I thought the same thing was true then. He's still the exact same player he was at United, it's just that Ligue 1 is a little bit houseboat. You wouldn't think so with all the great defenders coming out of there recently but I guess that's why they're all leaving. Lacazette had this issue too, he got all the time and space in the world, which is why he'd score boatloads in France but has never managed more than 14 league goals in a season in England. I've never rated Laca much but I think he was at least twice the player Memphis is back when we signed him.

Now Depay is 26, going on 27, just had an ACL, and he's coming here to replace the best forward we've had since Thierry Henry? I don't think so. This is the kind of signing that, if it actually happens, makes you wish ill on Raul and Edu.

Agree with all that. Depay isn't the man for us, never has been and never will be. If we end up selling Auba the replacement either needs to be younger (21-23 maybe) or if he's Depay's age he needs to be much better.

Quincy Abeyie wrote:

Agree with all that. Depay isn't the man for us, never has been and never will be. If we end up selling Auba the replacement either needs to be younger (21-23 maybe) or if he's Depay's age he needs to be much better.

If we do sell Aubameyang, the replacements are guys like Jovic and Isak. If folks are tired of Lacazette, they won't even develop an appetite for Depay. He's not Premier League top 4 quality. 

Klaus wrote:

He also rushed his recovery from the ACL to the dismay of Lyon's doctors because he was hellbent on making the squad for the now-cancelled Euros: https://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2020/concern-at-lyon-that-memphis-depay-is-rushing-his-recovery-from-his-acl-injury-to-make-euro-2020/

Every aspect of him screams of a lack of professionalism and application.

Players not following medial instructions is common. Remember RVP went to a dominatrix for horse placenta treatment.

I see what you're saying though he's definitely  a risk for a variety of reasons. But theirs also good potential there for a reasonable fee and good resale value . If we dumped him quickly. 
Fred looked like fraud at United but now looks great. It can just take time to adapt to the league and like you say he never looked comfortable he looked like he was tring to do to much to me. 

Not sure what would be worse, signing him as a rapper or a footballer.

speedy wrote:

Players not following medial instructions is common. Remember RVP went to a dominatrix for horse placenta treatment.

With our injury record around that time you can't actually blame players for not following our medical advice!

A good example of a player not following medical advice is Umtiti, there was a spell where he was one of the best CBs in world football and now looks a shell of that player.

Quincy Abeyie wrote:

He's 26 until he's 27. That is a fact.

😆 😆

JazzG wrote:

A good example of a player not following medical advice is Umtiti, there was a spell where he was one of the best CBs in world football and now looks a shell of that player.

I think I just jinxed the poor bloke, he has now suffered a fresh new knee injury! No idea if it is the same knee or not.

JazzG wrote:
JazzG wrote:

A good example of a player not following medical advice is Umtiti, there was a spell where he was one of the best CBs in world football and now looks a shell of that player.

I think I just jinxed the poor bloke, he has now suffered a fresh new knee injury! No idea if it is the same knee or not.

Ouch - scratch him off the list.

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