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Dominik Szoboszlai

Jed

This guy just looks like a superstar waiting to happen. Has the natural cockiness of a guy who knows how good he is.

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Ray wrote:
People had the same question marks over Gabriel when he was being linked. One footed, slow, lacked experience etc, who knows if Mari was fit, he may not even be playing now, but a mixture of physical attributes makes a massive difference in the PL, and Szobo seems to have that as does Gabriel, which makes him tailor made for the role.

Who the hell said Gabriel is slow?

JazzG

Kel Varnsen wrote:
Watched a few compilations. Not impressed at all.

I'd actually agree with this. He definitely has end product with his passing and mainly his goal scoring ability. But the rest of his game didn't really stand out if I'm being honest.

Looks like someone to play in attack than midfield from what I've seen.

Claudius

I am getting very excited for this.
I see us playing with a 4231, with Dominik as a 10. In a 343, we could have Saka as the wingback and Domnik as the wide left. In all formations, for the love of God, play Aubameyang at 9.

Let's set expectations about this guy. What is he good/great at

he is a set piece god. His shots on goal are rockets and his corners and indirect free kicks are curled in perfectly
through ball wizard. on the counter can punch the ball right into the striker's path through heavy traffic.
technically strong. Incredible footwork. Look at the video below for what he can do

Can work on

can drift out of games. I've watched the Pool games and this years CL games + couple of full Austria games. For such a talented player, you'd wish more of the play went through him. He's a bit like Tonali in that regard
sometimes can lose the ball in traffic - a bit like Aouar, not a train smash
he's fast enough, but not lightning quick like a Pépé or even an Aouar. We aren't buying him to become like Run TMC

He will remind you a bit of Ozil, a slightly languid playmaker with delectable skills. But he has this incredible physicality as well that creates real possibilities

QuincyAbeyie

Get him in, play him at 10 as you say, play Partey and Ceballos at the base and then go for Aouar or not based on how that base works out.

Claudius

Yeah. That would work nicely.
I just hope people haven't built up in their head that he's some kind of Ramsey who is going to be marauding all over our midfield. Ozil is the closest thing on our squad. He's a creative at heart. Will drift to the sides like Ozil and Henry, and come back in. Spots passes first. We might have to encourage him to shoot more. I can already hear some moaning about "he doesn't shoot enough"

Gazza M

Get him in, he's available for a decent price and we need goals from midfield. Those set pieces wouldn't go amiss either. somehow every player that comes here suddenly starts taking the shittest free kicks and corners of their career

QuincyAbeyie

I think it's more the instructions when it comes to set pieces. Pépé put in excellent corners last season, I don't believe that he suddenly only manages to hit them low at the first post.

goon

Same goes for Wilian. They're clearly being asked to whip it hard just beyond the near post while the players crowd the keeper. It's a difficult technique and the margin for error is small though so it just looks pathetic most of the time.

speedy

It might be the players need time to learn to hit the ball the way they want.
Or that the FK specalist coach worked with players who can hit it the way he wants and our players can't and he needs to adjust.
Or simply arteta hired the wrong set piece coach and replaces him in the summer

Either way it's a teething issue thats likely to be resolved soon, arteta doesn't hang about.

lorddulaarsenal

Talking about set pieces and corners. I don’t know why clubs don’t use the near post flick on. Seemed like we score every week that way under George Graham with the likes of Adams, Bould and Linighan flicking it on

lorddulaarsenal

I suppose the trouble is these days we’d need someone to have Mustafi on their shoulders

Claudius

On Aouar vs Szoboszlai, get both.
Retire Lacazette and bench Willian. And move to 4231

flobaba

Is it your money?

Claudius

No. Chop Stan’s money.

Ricky1985

I can see Kel's, and other's, concerns with Szoboszlai's game outside of his phenomenal ball-striking. He doesn't look a playmaker to me, not at this stage of his career anyway. Perhaps in a City-style dual 10/playmaker system; De Bruyne and David Silva ahead of Fernandinho worked incredibly well, and masked the fact that neither De Bruyne (especially 3 or 4 years ago) or Silva on their own were quite Özil-like enough to run the play entirely through.

Szboszlai Aouar
Partey

That midfield would a something special!

Claudius

Very few players are Bergkamp, Riquelne or even Ozil though Ricky. Coaches are training them to be generalists, and managers are creating teams with more distributed chance creation patterns. So that risk is not massive. I’d worry more about goals in the run of play, even things like taking chances versus looking to make the play. In their recent Europa games, Willock and Nelson looked to shoot when they could’ve passed. He can have more of that.

Clrnc

Claudius wrote:
Very few players are Bergkamp, Riquelne or even Ozil though Ricky. Coaches are training them to be generalists, and managers are creating teams with more distributed chance creation patterns. So that risk is not massive. I’d worry more about goals in the run of play, even things like taking chances versus looking to make the play. In their recent Europa games, Willock and Nelson looked to shoot when they could’ve passed. He can have more of that.

Those were the days where we enjoyed clubs building the entire team around a artistic number 10. Ozil is not quite at that style where he is super influential and responsible enough to be built around, more of a luxury cog in a successful team. But there were so many those days that were super artistic like Riquelme, Zidane, Laudrup, Totti, Hagi, Francescoli and also some underwhelming but similarly stylish players like Ortega, Gourcuff, Micoud, Djorkaeff.

Nowadays the most effective number 10s are the functional ones rather than the stylish ones like KDB.

Ray

KDB has supreme vision and passing. Very similar to Bergkamp.

goon

He does but KDB is very functional too to be honest. Pep doesn’t really allow for free spirits.

What’s his passing range like for those who’ve watched him?

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