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Ray wrote:

Ziyech isn't as good out wide as he is centrally, they're better off with someone like Sancho.

The fact that Chelsea have seemingly backed off Sancho, means that he is headed elsewhere.

Bad feeling, but he does seem United bound.

We just have to execute our business, and make sure we do everything we can.

Any stalling in this next transfer window, and we will regret it more than any other window. With Chelsea having an absolute stormer before the window has even opened, United heavily linked with Sancho, and City and Liverpool already so far ahead, we can’t hesitate.

Edu’s baptism of fire.

We definitely need to be careful this summer. We have to get one or two starters, arguably midfielders, and they need to take us up a level. We can't afford another Pepé right now. This is not the time to sign adapting players.

At the same time I feel we also need to have a little ice in our stomachs and trust the talent we've got. We committed to young players, we committed to Arteta. Let's give them a season to sort it out. Chelsea are richer than us and will always have it easier, but they are in the position they are right now because they decided to build something while we were pissing away two seasons on Emery's bland, unambitious football.

Good things come to people who have a solid plan instead of just throwing stuff at the wall in panic in the hope that something will stick. We spent incredible money last summer and there has been zero improvement on the actual pitch in spite of it. Spending big sums is not always the answer, especially now when we're out of Champions League again. Get Partey, keep Auba, pick up one or two blokes from the relegation teams for better depth (Buendia and Mings both seem like excellent targets to me) and we might be going places soon.

Klaus wrote:

Good things come to people who have a solid plan instead of just throwing stuff at the wall in panic in the hope that something will stick. We spent incredible money last summer and there has been zero improvement on the actual pitch in spite of it. Spending big sums is not always the answer, especially now when we're out of Champions League again. Get Partey, keep Auba, pick up one or two blokes from the relegation teams for better depth (Buendia and Mings both seem like excellent targets to me) and we might be going places soon.

This is the key. As long as we have a plan and trust in it, I don't really care what other teams are up to. This is how we will stay out of all Coutinho and James conversations. It's not about keeping up with the Jones', it's about executing our plan. I have a similar perspective to you. I think Partey is our biggest lift. I then think an AM solves the Aubameyang problems that a lot of people seem to be misdiagnosing.  

If we cannot get the best possible central defender this summer, I would wait a year. We have a deep bench there and can afford to push them another year while we wait for the title winning central defender to partner Saliba. 

Klaus wrote:

We definitely need to be careful this summer. We have to get one or two starters, arguably midfielders, and they need to take us up a level. We can't afford another Pepé right now. This is not the time to sign adapting players.

At the same time I feel we also need to have a little ice in our stomachs and trust the talent we've got. We committed to young players, we committed to Arteta. Let's give them a season to sort it out. Chelsea are richer than us and will always have it easier, but they are in the position they are right now because they decided to build something while we were pissing away two seasons on Emery's bland, unambitious football.

Good things come to people who have a solid plan instead of just throwing stuff at the wall in panic in the hope that something will stick. We spent incredible money last summer and there has been zero improvement on the actual pitch in spite of it. Spending big sums is not always the answer, especially now when we're out of Champions League again. Get Partey, keep Auba, pick up one or two blokes from the relegation teams for better depth (Buendia and Mings both seem like excellent targets to me) and we might be going places soon.

I absolutely agree with you

We have to make sure that our plans are executed, no half way measures.

If Arteta wants to revamp the midfield, then do it.

[size=small]Matheus Henrique, Szoboszlai, Partey, Grealish etc are all going to be available. Even loftier targets like Aouar could be available with some creativity.[/size]

[size=small]We just have to make sure we back Arteta and do what we can, if we do, with the current youngsters we have, and Arteta’s seemingly good training methods, we will be a lot better.[/size]

There are rumours that Liverpool and Chelsea are looking at Marseille’s Boubacar Kamara. He’s a central defender I’ve liked for a long time. Reminds me of Vermaelen. Really sharp on the ball, mobile. Can double up as a DM. He stands out for his skills from the glut of French u20 and u21 defenders. Only reason he wouldn’t be my top pick for Arsenal is he’s only 6ft and not an aerial beast like an Ayala.

Claudius wrote:

There are rumours that Liverpool and Chelsea are looking at Marseille’s Boubacar Kamara. He’s a central defender I’ve liked for a long time. Reminds me of Vermaelen. Really sharp on the ball, mobile. Can double up as a DM. He stands out for his skills from the glut of French u20 and u21 defenders. Only reason he wouldn’t be my top pick for Arsenal is he’s only 6ft and not an aerial beast like an Ayala.

https://www.whoscored.com/Players/331790/Show/Boubacar-Kamara
Don't think height is such as issue in a back3 - particularly for the outside CBs, and Saliba is over 190cm IIRC.
Unfortunately OM are in the UCL next season so I think he would be beyond our current revenues, more so if we are to go ahead with signing Partey.

I think I also saw something about a 'traditional top6' PL club having made an offer re Sarr?

Anzac wrote:

I think I also saw something about a 'traditional top6' PL club having made an offer re Sarr?

Leeds?

You know the rumor is bullshit when they write it like that. "A club with red on their logo has bid for him".

I remember one a couple of summers ago "Arsenal have made an approach to a Spanish club for a midfielder". Its the football journalists versions of "I'm feeling that someone in the rooms has some one close to them who's very sick".

Qwiss! wrote:
Anzac wrote:

I think I also saw something about a 'traditional top6' PL club having made an offer re Sarr?

Leeds?

Everton / NUFC ?

Breaking | Gianluca di Marzio announces that Napoli will sign Victor Osimhen from Lille for €50m + €10m in bonuses, after the player said yes, if they can agree final terms with the Nigerian striker’s new agents.

Gunner89 wrote:

Breaking | Gianluca di Marzio announces that Napoli will sign Victor Osimhen from Lille for €50m + €10m in bonuses, after the player said yes, if they can agree final terms with the Nigerian striker’s new agents.

There was a story last week that he had put off a decision until Tuesday this week (MC verdict?) supposedly hoping for an offer from us or CFC(??).

Jan Vertonghen emerges as a free-transfer target for Manchester City. Pep Guardiola sees the player as a short term solution for both Centre Back and Left back for next season. [McGrath - telegraph]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/07/14/jan-vertonghen-emerges-potential-free-transfer-target-manchester/

PSG have made Marcus Rashford their top transfer target, with Thomas Tuchel said to be a huge fan of the Manchester United star, according to The Independent

AC Milan want to buy Simon Kjaer from Sevilla and have contacted the Spanish club in the recent hours. The 3.5M clause included in the Denmark's captain loan with the Rossoneri expires tomorrow - Tuttomercatoweb

Remember like 10 years a go, we used to get linked a lot with Kjaer.

Official: Nicolas Kühn moves to Bayern Munich permanently, after being on loan at Bayern from Ajax since January

Southampton closing in on signing of Mohammed Salisu from Real Valladolid - Work permit issues seem to be solvable

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8522073/Southampton-closing-signing-Mohammed-Salisu-Real-Valladolid.html

Inter Miami has offered a contract to Barcelona’s Arturo Vidal

[BBC] Kai Havertz: German midfielder would consider move without Champions League place

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/53401114

FC Barcelona has reached an agreement for the signing of Lautaro Martinez for €70M and Junior Firpo (Valued at €41M). The Catalan club must nevertheless sell players to obtain the funds. - @La_SER @SERCatalunya

Is he really that good? For like a year now every other day there is something about Lautaro to Barca.

So Valencia want to sell: Parejo, Rodrigo, Coquelin, Kondogbia, Mangala, Diakhaby, Gameiro, Cillessen, Rubén Sobrino y Correia. Are they broke or something? Should we go for any of these players?

HomeSteak wrote:

So Valencia want to sell: Parejo, Rodrigo, Coquelin, Kondogbia, Mangala, Diakhaby, Gameiro, Cillessen, Rubén Sobrino y Correia. Are they broke or something? Should we go for any of these players?

That is because Peter Lim is a terrible owner and at war with most of the squad and also the supporters.

Other issue is that they have a big wage bill and must balance the books with no European football in prospects for the next season. Therefore they have to get rid these players who are on champions league wages (by Valencia's standards) and have little to no resale value.

From this list, the only player I would go for is Rodrigo Moreno. Versatile striker who can play up front or on either flank.

I would have gone for Parejo if he was a few years younger. He is a very good passer and a reliable set piece taker, something which we lack in my honest opinion.
Now with his legs gone he is not so mobile anymore and I don't think we can build a midfield around an aging player to compensate for his weaknesses.

Not to mention Parejo struggled badly in his time at England football.

Ferran Torres and Lee Kang-In is my absolute top picks from Valencia, Carlos Soler decent too

Ferran Torres would be the one to take if there weren't more pressing concerns. High ceiling

Ferran has much bigger teams than us who are also behind him.

Guardiola is very publicly a big admirer and Bayern/Barcelona have also been seriously interested in the past.

With him stalling on signing a new contract, it would be interesting to see who get him.

Ah, hadn't been following transfer talk. Just seen him a few times and he's a baller. Guedes has trailed off like an Iwobi, unfortunately. And I just remember Lee Kang-In trying to tussle with the chief of dirty, Sergio Ramos, and getting himself sent off in the process 😆. idiot.