Football Index

deardevil

Hope everyone is keeping well in these uncertain times.

A couple years ago I came across Football Index which is basically the stock market of football players, where you trade players, build a portfolio and benefit from capital appreciation and dividend payments. The platform is currently only available to UK residents, but it's expected to roll out to other countries in the future.

I have read numerous reviews of the platform and for many it's the easiest money they've ever made. As we are still in the growth stage, there is a ton of money flooding to the platform and you would have more than doubled your money in less than year. Hell, had you bought Haaland in December 2019, you would have tripled your money by now.

I failed to follow up on the intial interest, but managed to deposit a £1000 a couple months ago. I have invested £700 so far and I'm showing £100 profit. Which is quite remarkeable considering the pandemic, the cessation of football and the general uncertainty of when competition will resume.

I have bought 50 players so far but I feel like I should have a more concentrated portfolio considering just how much share prices are increasing across the board.. The remaining £300 I plan to throw it all on Mbappe.

My portfolio as it currently stands;

Haaland ↑ £5.10
Rashford ↑ £4.26
Havertz ↑ £6.27
Sancho ↑ £7.80
Bellingham ↑ £5.00
Werner ↑ £1.96
Mbappe ↑ £7.20
Odegaard ↑ £4.08
Gnabry ↑ £1.98
Thuram ↑ £4.27
Nkunku ↑ £2.44
Martinez ↑ £2.32
Sane ↑ £2.28
Hakimi ↑ £2.50
Foden ↑ £0.96
Jesus ↑ £2.30
Tonali ↑ £2.00
Rodrygo ↑ £1.52
Camavinga ↑ £1.36
Paulinho ↑ £1.65
Vinicius Junior ↑ £1.32
Pulisic ↑ £1.55
Torres ↑ £1.50
Pogba ↑ £0.58
Szoboszlai ↑ £1.96
Aouar ↑ £1.12
Fernandes ↑ £0.26
Saint-Maximin ↑ £1.75
Martinez ↑ £0.66
Jovic ↑ £1.19
Dybala ↑ £0.51
Rashica ↑ £0.56
van de Beek ↑ £0.50
Adli ↑ £0.64
Upamecano ↑ £0.48
Felix ↑ £0.24
Martial ↑ £0.35
Chukwueze ↑ £0.12
Milinkovic-Savic £0.00
Soumare ↓ £0.06
Silva ↓ £0.20
Asensio ↓ £0.21
Guendouzi ↓ £0.45
Ihattaren ↓ £0.18
de Jong ↓ £0.35
Pepe ↓ £0.28
Edouard ↓ £0.32
Fati ↓ £0.60
Mane ↓ £0.60
Saka ↓ £0.45
Sterling ↓ £1.02
Nketiah ↓ £1.80

The platform does not charge any dealing fees. It makes money off the spread, which is the difference between the buy and sell price which I recall is currently 2%. As such, it benefits buy and hold investors versus those who like to trade frequently. Dividends are paid based on match day performances as well as media appearance such as transfer speculation. You can only lose all of your investment in one player if he retires and you can only hold an investment for three years before it expires. So it's worth keeping track so as to sell before the expiration date and repurchase if you like.

I have attached a referral link below which will give you and I a £10 bonus when signing up.

Your friend's Unique Referral Code:
554926

There is also a £500 money back guarantee offer to all new customerss. Which means you can deploy £500 risk free for 7 days and get at full refund up to £500 for any losses made.

Good luck and don't forget to put your money where your mouth is.

https://www.footballindex.co.uk/

jones

Never heard of it, don't like trading stock but this looks fun. Are player fees dictated solely by market movements (both buyers/sellers and actual transfers taking place) or is there some website algorithm at work behind it?

deardevil

jones wrote:
Never heard of it, don't like trading stock but this looks fun. Are player fees dictated solely by market movements (both buyers/sellers and actual transfers taking place) or is there some website algorithm at work behind it?

From the website; In short, footballer prices on the market are determined by supply and demand, similar mechanics to that of the traditional stock market. The footballer's price will go up if there are traders buying the footballer and will go down if traders are selling the footballer.

They had an issue a few years back where the absence of a market maker led to people being unable to offload shares in a player who had fled for China, given that no-one was willing to buy the stock on the other side of the trade. This gave birth to the instant sell (which has a wider spread) where the platform itself provides liquidity so that people can sell undesirable stock.

It's regulated by the gambling commission and is essentially betting on the trajectory of a football player over the long term, as opposed to betting on the outcome of a single football match. Although, you could take a shorter term approach if you feel inclined. As such, it's more akin to football fantasy than it is traditional betting.

If you know your football then it's hard to see how you can lose money. My portfolio grew £30 today and there is only German football on. I think my biggest regret will probably be not putting enough money in there.

Havertz has been a solid performer this week. Went up from £5.40 to £6.40.

QuincyAbeyie

Sounds pretty fun, wish it was available elsewhere as well.

Mirth

Yep, it's gambling rather than investing (hur-dur so is the stock market) but the reason that matters is a) its tax free b) FSCS protection for your cash won't apply.

I'll probably join in though, seems fun

deardevil

You can employ less speculative strategies and significantly limit downside risk.

Some people tend to trade players on anticipation of match winning performances over the weekend or transfer speculation in the paper. You could say these are your traders.

The alternative is to hold players for the maximum time duration of 3 years and take a buy and hold view point. This is obviously less riskier as you are betting on a player to perform well over a longer period of time. These would be your investors.

You can also reduce risk by avoiding individual picks and buying a tracker. You can buy one following the top 10, 25, 50 & 100 players on the platform.

deardevil

I am thinking of moving my money in Nketiah to purchase Alphonso Davies. His value has quadrupled (400%) this season but I've not seen him in action to make a judgment. Aside from a few snippets of his marauding runs.

I bought Nketiah as he's English and he's likely to be in the papers quite a lot but he's my worst performing investment.

My current aim is to concentrate my portfolio, or to increase funds and allocate 90% to no more than 10 players.

Claudius

Sounds like bitcoin. So this isn’t tied to intrinsic value, just overall demand of the particular asset. So Who is everyone else buying? Players who are delivering today or that they expect will deliver tomorrow?

deardevil

Exactly, the value of the asset is determined by supply and demand. You could say the intrinsic value of a player is current ability x potential. The most valuable players on the platform are Jadon Sancho, Bruno Fernandes and Kylian Mbappe which shows that there is a tilt towards growth. It also shows the inefficiency of the market place where the English centric user base prop up domestic products, and how hype can lead to someone like Fernandes absolutely sky rocketing up the hierarchy. I've been quietly buying up more and more shares in Mbappe as it's clear he is relatively undervalued.

The market place is incredibly young and there are so many pockets of value to exploit. I was reading through a forum where a Ligue 1 expert has carved out a niche for himself where he was solely buying up burgeoning French talents. The last time I saw his portfolio he was up a few fold. Considering the UK only user base, any kind of European knowledge is going to give you an edge over the market.

Ultimately, there is so much money flowing into the market, a blind monkey could select a winning portfolio.

Claudius

Okay, so it sounds like go in and buy up anyone who will transfer to England in the next 12 months or will at least grow in profile. So even someone as well known as a Werner will be a good buy. This could actually be fun. It's a bit like investing in the stock market with a lot of irrational traders

deardevil

Yeah, but it also pays to buy the English hype jobs. Jude Bellingham for example is already trading at a 'premium'.

There was also share split in Neymar last year as the value of a single share reached £20.

I have just put Nketiah on sale. Currently have £10 tied up in him. Want to cut my losses and rotate the money into Davies or purchase additional shares in Haaland.

Currently Sancho and Haaland are the guys to buy. The former is trading over £13 whilst Gnabry is around £4, to offer some perspective.

Meatwad

can you short?

deardevil

Meatwad wrote:
can you short?

The market place is not sophiscitated enough to offer that, but I am sure they will roll it out at some point in the future.

deardevil

I have finalised my top 10 holdings with a clear tilt towards the holy trinity of Mbappe, Sancho and Haaland. They represent the ideal FI footballer combining incredible matchday performances with uncapped future potential, as well as persistent media involvement due to transfer speculation. My top 10 holdings are as follows;

Mbappe - 15%
Sancho - 15%
Haaland - 10%
Rashford - 5%
Sterling - 3%
Sane - 3%
Asensio - 3%
Fernandes - 2%
Werner - 2%
Davies - 2%

I increased my holdings in Asensio yesterday. A few years ago he would have been one of my first picks, but his ACL injury has derailed him so who knows if he will ever deliver on his potential. Nevertheless, he is back in contention and the market was buoyed by his return. So I bought into the upward trend.

In other news, I have put Mane on sale. His value has decreased since I bought him and it's becoming apparent growth is the outperforming factor on the index. Quality as I would describe Mane has not really performed well in terms of share price. My first sale ever was in fact Lionel Messi.

I am also wondering whether I should reduce my holdings in Alphonso Davies. I bought his shares in the past week, but I am concerned at having such a significant holding in a fullback. My gut tells me he will settle down in the next couple years and won't be as marauding and eye catching as he has been this season. I will watch this one closely.

deardevil

Finally bought two crocks, Kingsley Coman and Ousmane Dembele. Their cheap share price and potential upside led to the decision. They only represent 1% of my portfolio so they're not going to have much of an impact.

deardevil

Apparently, it's also available to users in Sweden, Canada and Ireland.

Some big rises this week. Mason Greenwood has gone from £6.50 to almost £9.00 in a week!

RC8

How do dividends work?

Say I bought the top 5 performing players and do nothing else. What would that net me?

deardevil

Dividends can be paid out for match day performance, media speculation or in play.

https://trade.footballindex.co.uk/what-are-dividends/#:~:text=Media%20Dividends%20are%20paid%20out,credited%20with%20your%20Media%20Dividends.

Dividends are just one way to profit. The other is capital appreciation.

It's rather annoying that I was too risk averse at the start, creating a portfolio of over 50 players. I'm now concentrating as much as possible.

Mirth

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/mar/11/football-index-customers-money-trapped-after-platform-is-suspended

jones

Damn hope deardevil is OK.