Qwiss! wrote:

So Saka has only 18 months left on his £3k a week deal. There is major interest from big clubs around Europe and within in the PL. Arsenal are urgently trying to get him to sign a new five year deal.

Through blood sweat and tears in Arsenal's academy. Pay them all and keep the graduates together. Good on the club for starting here with their squad management.

He’ll sign. Getting lots of game time and will get his payday.

He and Marty are going to tear up that left side if we can keep them fit, healthy and signed on.

Is it a saga? Think he'll sign, no issue.

he'll sign because he hasn't really made any money yet and he can't risk playing another 18 months on 3k a week. the risk of major injury is strong.

Someone's definitely been making waves but I reckon that's just his agent. Putting some pressure on Arsenal could be the difference between us offering him £50K per week and raising it to £80K.

Meatwad wrote:

he'll sign because he hasn't really made any money yet and he can't risk playing another 18 months on 3k a week. the risk of major injury is strong.

Yep. He's pretty good but he's not Halaand or Sancho good that he has much leverage on us

Klaus wrote:

Someone's definitely been making waves but I reckon that's just his agent. Putting some pressure on Arsenal could be the difference between us offering him £50K per week and raising it to £80K.

You think it'll be as much as that? I'd have thought it would be more like 30-50k, and then progressing to your sort of range in a couple of years. 

goon wrote:

Klaus wrote:

Someone's definitely been making waves but I reckon that's just his agent. Putting some pressure on Arsenal could be the difference between us offering him £50K per week and raising it to £80K.

You think it'll be as much as that? I'd have thought it would be more like 30-50k, and then progressing to your sort of range in a couple of years. 

Yeah I definitely think we're going to have to pay the top youngsters comparable wages, otherwise they won't think twice about leaving. A couple of years ago we could have gotten away with upping their wages in smaller increments, but that's virtually impossible now when top class youngsters are scouted by everyone and paid big money right away. Gabi is easily going to get at least £100K on his next contract which he's bound to sign this year. Guys like Eddie and Willock who haven't broken through fully yet will be alright on £40-50K for another year or two, but Martinelli and Saka are among our top performers. You pay them or you lose them.

Yeah I guess it adds up when you look at what someone like Sancho is on now. Crazy. It just strikes me as odd that he'd leapfrog someone like Tierney, our £25m signing. I guess you're not paying for their current status in the squad as much as you're paying them to ward off potential suitors with their potential value down the line in mind.

I hope we don't get stuck paying ridiculously inflated wages at such young ages. That's been part of our problem in bringing through youth talent I feel that too quickly that are given money and certainty about their place in the squad when their focus should be on football and continuing their development.

He undoubtedly looks to be a promising youngster and we will need to improve our offer but I hope we don't go overboard with rewarding a very early sign of potential.

to get that much requires leverage, sancho had it. i think his first dortmund contract was until 2020 and was extended to 2022 in 2019. dortmund and sancho's reps knew that for dortmund to get top money for him on the transfer market he had to extend. so they had leverage and dortmund paid up. saka doesn't have leverage. his reps are smartly trying to create some, but at the end of the day he has 18 months remaining paying him 3k a week. that's a long time to twist in the wind hoping to leave on a free. if saka goes from 3k to 80k then we're fucked because if you think the current mismanagement of our wage bill is bad, wait until you see what comes next. 10x his current wage is more than enough and then it's reevaluated next season and the next.

and there is no such thing as creating goodwill with the player. that idea should have died with cesc, rvp, etc. etc. we just need to make sure we have some leverage in all negotiations.

goon wrote:

Klaus wrote:

Someone's definitely been making waves but I reckon that's just his agent. Putting some pressure on Arsenal could be the difference between us offering him £50K per week and raising it to £80K.

You think it'll be as much as that? I'd have thought it would be more like 30-50k, and then progressing to your sort of range in a couple of years. 

He’s a child. Can’t be more than 30k. Why are people talking 80?

Because players don't get paid based on their age or what they previously earned. That's not how football works. You get paid based on how important you are. Martinelli and Saka aren't just two of our best talents, they're two of our best players. You think PSG tried to offer Mbappe €30K just because he was 18 when they signed him?

goon wrote:

Klaus wrote:

Someone's definitely been making waves but I reckon that's just his agent. Putting some pressure on Arsenal could be the difference between us offering him £50K per week and raising it to £80K.

You think it'll be as much as that? I'd have thought it would be more like 30-50k, and then progressing to your sort of range in a couple of years. 

Hudson-Odoi is on 100k reportedly and he hasn’t been as impressive in first team football as Saka.

While I agree, Hudson-Odoi is considered the bigger talent. He has matches for England while Saka hasn't played for the u21 team yet. Also, CHO was in a unique position as Chelsea had a transfer ban so he could basically hold the club hostage.

Jed wrote:

goon wrote:

You think it'll be as much as that? I'd have thought it would be more like 30-50k, and then progressing to your sort of range in a couple of years. 

Hudson-Odoi is on 100k reportedly and he hasn’t been as impressive in first team football as Saka.

Just cos Chelsea are smoking something doesn’t mean we should be too. A guy plays a dozen top tier games, is still playing junior national team games and folks want to give him the booty. A kiss will do. Next thing we have to give it up to everybody.

Not saying we should pay him anywhere near that. Just that him and his agent would expect a quite sizeable raise considering the market rate.

Claudius wrote:

A guy plays a dozen top tier games, is still playing junior national team games and folks want to give him the booty.

A guy is free to agree terms with any other club ten months from now, and there are plenty of them that are better than us that would have him. They'll give him a nice signing on bonus too that will more than make up for us short-changing him for another year.

Serious football clubs pay serious wages. It would be nice to see us not fucking everything up for once when we finally produce some good players.