Qwiss! wrote:
goon wrote:
Also there's nothing distasteful about it, if you came out and said Arteta should be sacked on the spot that would be fine, I just think it's a terrible, irrational idea.
If I wanted him sacked on the spot I'd say it. If results keep going the way they are he should be sacked though and I don't think its very smart to only start looking for someone after that decisions been made.
How do you even look for someone? What's the benefit of putting feelers out now rather than later? Are you telling people like Poch to wait and not accept any other job because we may or may not want him in 9 month? There's not much else you can do, you can't negotiate terms etc, so what's the point? Either way when it comes to it, it will take a week or two.
I see very little benefit. On the other hand, you're getting it out there that you're potentially looking to replace the current manager. It's pretty much a death knell.
Like I said, you can keep an internal shortlist and have a clear idea of the candidates you are going to approach if the time comes. The only reason it was so farcical when Emery was sacked was because we insisted on interviewing 10 candidates, 9 of whom probably never had a chance of getting the job.
awooga83 wrote:
I think hiring an experienced manager is a big mistake for a club like ours. It's a poor and reckless decision and I think shows how clueless the people who make decisions at the club are. Modern football you are not getting time to learn like that.
That's why the appointment is also not great for Arteta because he always needed to hit the ground running. If he doesn't they're is nothing to fall back on we can't cite examples to say he's come through this or achieved this so maybe he can turn it round. There's no way to know that it'll ever get better then this.
Well the experience didn't help Emery. The poor guy actually did alright in his first season, 5th, 70 points and two cup finals, and yet half the fanbase wanted him gone that summer. The other half wanted him gone by October. The fanbase will always react to poor form, it's got nothing to do with experience. There's never any way to know it will get better, there's only maybe one or two managers out there who'd have that sort of capital.
This takes me back to my original point. Once the club commit themselves to a project they need to see it through. Whatever you think about hiring an inexperienced manager in the first place, hiring one and then demanding instant results, in the COVID era no less, would be even more insane.
Obviously at some point it might become clear that he's out of his depth, but personally, barring an absolute horror show, I think you need at least a couple of seasons and a couple of summer transfer windows before you can make that assessment.