If Pepe is Ronaldo level good, we might just close the gap to City to under 20 points.

Qwiss! wrote:

So City not that good?

West Ham were truly dire defensively, to be fair.

Qwiss! wrote:

Great from Sterling. Gonna get Vatred again.

Feel this might not be great for Auba.

Might take a few off Auba, but he'll gain some too. It will be damn good for Arsenal though, 100% sure of that.

goon wrote:

If Pepe is Ronaldo level good, we might just close the gap to City to under 20 points.

Thats why we need young players, no point being where Liverpool are now (CL aside), we just need to be ready once City regress, no one stays on top forever.

Sterling to win ballon d’or in 2020.

Declan Rice looked way out of his depth today, I'm not quite sure what the big deal is.

goon wrote:

Declan Rice looked way out of his depth today, I'm not quite sure what the big deal is.

He's the new Mark Noble.

Ricky1985 wrote:
Qwiss! wrote:

So City not that good?

West Ham were truly dire defensively, to be fair.

Nope. City and Pool yesterday are just that good. People were saying Norwich were awful defensively yesterday. They will be saying that about a ton of teams this season. Reality is that the top two are miles ahead of the rest. Klopp and Guardiola are today's Ferguson and Wenger. We think the league is ultra competitive but it's not. The league has a funny way of becoming tougher, the shitter you become.

They may as well engrave city's name on the trophy now. I watched on a fantastically clear German stream. I didn't need to understand a word but i did get a chuckle when they said exodus at the sight of West Ham supporters leaving early.

Qwiss! wrote:
goon wrote:

If Pepe is Ronaldo level good, we might just close the gap to City to under 20 points.

Thats why we need young players, no point being where Liverpool are now (CL aside), we just need to be ready once City regress, no one stays on top forever.

Totally. That's why I'm so against Zaha. There's no point signing him just to get up back in the CL (there's plenty who can help us do that for <70m), only for us to have to replace him when we're reaching a stage to challenge.

goon wrote:

Declan Rice looked way out of his depth today, I'm not quite sure what the big deal is.

I like him as a potential centrehalf, but think way too much is made of him as a centre midfielder.

Out of interest on VAR calls, is it also able to call when the ball was struck to the same level of accuracy? They didn't mentioned anything in The Atletic article I read. It's a bit pointless if that's being decided by a human.

On today’s basis, VAR will kill the magic of football.

As fans we have to now wait 30msecs before celebrating a goal? This is going to kill football man.

deardevil wrote:
Ricky1985 wrote:

West Ham were truly dire defensively, to be fair.

Nope. City and Pool yesterday are just that good. People were saying Norwich were awful defensively yesterday. They will be saying that about a ton of teams this season. Reality is that the top two are miles ahead of the rest. Klopp and Guardiola are today's Ferguson and Wenger. We think the league is ultra competitive but it's not. The league has a funny way of becoming tougher, the shitter you become.

Perhaps you're right, but, in all likelihood both Norwich and West Ham will be in the bottom third of the League for goals conceded this season. They're both highly susceptable to gettting ripped open by strong attacks.

So when I say West Ham are dire defensively, I am right. When other people say Norwich were awful defensively (I didn't watch the game), they're probably right.

How good City and Liverpool attack generally has nothing to do with the point being made. If Norwich or West Ham were defensively good, or even decent, outside of games against those two clubs you would have a point, but they aren't and won't be. It is accurate to say they are dire defensively.

goon wrote:

What kind of moron doesn't pick Sterling for FPL 🙁

Salah, Sterling and Kane crew checking in  8)

Ricky1985 wrote:
goon wrote:

Declan Rice looked way out of his depth today, I'm not quite sure what the big deal is.

I like him as a potential centrehalf, but think way too much is made of him as a centre midfielder.

I'm still to be convinced by the Rice hype. Same goes for Foden who Guardiola keeps praising to high heaven. He managed peak Messi and he says this
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/49133205

Sicario wrote:

On today’s basis, VAR will kill the magic of football.

As fans we have to now wait 30msecs before celebrating a goal? This is going to kill football man.

It didn't kill the Champions League last season, did it?

(Cue the jokes aboout the futility of asking an Arsenal fan about the Champions League!) 😆

If anything, it just adds to the up and down drama that fans love so much. Look at Sterling's offside 96th minute 'winner' against Tottenham last season. The drama was something else.

Bold Tone wrote:
Ricky1985 wrote:

I like him as a potential centrehalf, but think way too much is made of him as a centre midfielder.

I'm still to be convinced by the Rice hype. Same goes for Foden who Guardiola keeps praising to high heaven. He managed peak Messi and he says this
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/49133205

Pep loves his hyperbole, all talk yet hardly any gametime. 

That being said, Foden does look class to me. 

Ricky1985 wrote:
Sicario wrote:

On today’s basis, VAR will kill the magic of football.

As fans we have to now wait 30msecs before celebrating a goal? This is going to kill football man.

It didn't kill the Champions League last season, did it?

(Cue the jokes aboout the futility of asking an Arsenal fan about the Champions League!) 😆

If anything, it just adds to the up and down drama that fans love so much. Look at Sterling's offside 96th minute 'winner' against Tottenham last season. The drama was something else.

We will see how much drama it will be mate when it goes against us.

Imagine an Auba last min winner v Spurs rules out because he was milmeters offside.

Sicario wrote:
Ricky1985 wrote:

It didn't kill the Champions League last season, did it?

(Cue the jokes aboout the futility of asking an Arsenal fan about the Champions League!) 😆

If anything, it just adds to the up and down drama that fans love so much. Look at Sterling's offside 96th minute 'winner' against Tottenham last season. The drama was something else.

We will see how much drama it will be mate when it goes against us.

Imagine an Auba last min winner v Spurs rules out because he was milmeters offside.

I'd rather that than lose to a last minute goal in the NLD that should have clearly been chalked off.