What’s wrong with the current system?
It’s not clear to me whether this implies that dissent is seen as deserving more or less severe punishment than a dangerous (yellow card) tackle.
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This is all so stupid and overly complicated.
Watching Chelsea against Gladbach.
If we don't finish above a team with Abraham leading the line and Pulisic as their best player...
Dortmund have been excellent tonight in German Super Cup vs Bayern. Moving the ball nicely. Reus commanding
And £8m for Sancho has to be some of the best recent business. Great solo goal and assist. They’ll get more than Pépé money from United or Chelsea
Great goal, Sterling. What a player he has developed into. With Hazard having departed he has a real case for being the best attacker in the league.
Was already better than Hazard, to be fair.
Oxlade-Chamberlain looking at Guardiola like a kid seeing a celebrity.
I love the Guardiola- Klopp battle where both are pleasing poverty. Klopp has outspent everyone on transfers in the past 2 years and paid the highest wages last year. Guardiola only had the most expensive squad in league history. They’re both like little kids.
By the way. That’s the Liverpool model.
Claudius wrote:What’s wrong with the current system?
It’s not clear to me whether this implies that dissent is seen as deserving more or less severe punishment than a dangerous (yellow card) tackle.
It's basically to avoid giving a yellow card to a player for dissent. E.g. RVP yellow card would be a sin bin instead.
It's also fucking stupid. The problem is the "offence". No player should be getting a yellow card or sin bin for telling the ref he needs his eyes checked.
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That sideways glance. 
Dickhead.
Been telling you since day one. Fraud
Na, he's a very good defender, but I think fans have gone overboard with the praise. The whole inspitstional leader stuff is bollocks and has gone to his head a little, though, I agree with that.
As a defender, he makes many more mistakes than is acknowledged, especially when he has runners into the box. He loses his man frequently and is prone to making bad decisions when he doesn't have time to decide. Yesterday is an example; I didn't see a single person anywhere criticise him for the fact that he completely lost Sterling for City's goal. Mustafi would have been sluaghtered, and rightly so.
I think Liverpool won't be as good this season as last and van Dijk, along with a few others, will be thought of a little less highly a few months from now.
Not disagreeing with anything you said Ricky. I'm saying he's a fraud literally, people lap his shit up all day long because mouth breathers like Deeney add to his legend and act like he can do no wrong when his inspirational horseshit is exactly that and way too few recognise what a dirty cunt he can be on the pitch. There aren't many centre backs in the league where perception and reality display that kind of chasm
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That sideways glance.
Dickhead.
Tbf Henry used to check himself out on the big screen more than anyone.
Henry had the looks and the panache, he could afford being a bit vain. Van Dijk on the other hand has a weird face plucked eyebrows and puts strawberry perfume on before games.
Strawberry perfume?
Deeney gave an interview once where he talked about VVD and how he smelled annoying. Might of course be just his troglodyte ways but putting on perfume on your kit is well dodge where I'm from
I just checked it was Sturridge who put on strawberry perfume, Deeneys interview said it was just perfume didn't specify what type. Still the idea of putting on shin pads checking your studs then spraying some cologne is ridiculous either way
You took Deeney's word? He looks like a chromosome-deficient pitbull and doesn't have much more sense than one. Cojones is your source?
He was actually praising him throughout the interview I dont see a reason why he'd be lying about that particular part. Of course there's always the chance that he mistook the unfamiliar smell of toothpaste or Listerine for perfume but I'm willing to bet in this case, it just perfectly fits VVD
Reading the posts above seems like VVD won't be a starter for us.
Clrnc wrote:Reading the posts above seems like VVD won't be a starter for us.
Why would you say that? I said he's a vile character and is not as flawless as people make him out to be. Excuse for not fawning over him like everyone else
Also Koulibaly pisses all over him
jones wrote:Of course there's always the chance that he mistook the unfamiliar smell of toothpaste or Listerine for perfume
Another bit of playing up to the camera:
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jones wrote:Clrnc wrote:Reading the posts above seems like VVD won't be a starter for us.
Why would you say that? I said he's a vile character and is not as flawless as people make him out to be. Excuse for not fawning over him like everyone else
Also Koulibaly pisses all over him
It's so tiresome.
Do we really have to preface criticism of a player with: "of course, he walks in to our team with one leg" before it is deemed acceptable?
Seems like people are allergic to the middle ground. Either you fawn or you hate. Apparently, there is no place for balanced opinions.
VVD is quality, but I think Ricky was spot on the other day with the analysis of Liverpool's switch to a flat midfield three offering him a lot more protection.
I think most defenders still need the best system to bring the best out of them, whereas the best forwards can thrive without needing to be catered to so strongly.
Evvvvverybody gets conscious when they're no camera or a big screen like that and react and change behavior in some way or the other-usually trying to project a positive act. God I hate social media!! You guys need to chill.
deardevil wrote:Seems like people are allergic to the middle ground. Either you fawn or you hate. Apparently, there is no place for balanced opinions.
We don't do balanced opinions around here. Best of luck with your search elsewhere though
arsedoc md wrote:Evvvvverybody gets conscious when they're no camera or a big screen like that and react and change behavior in some way or the other-usually trying to project a positive act. God I hate social media!! You guys need to chill.
Look at Mr I'm on a big screen on the reg over here
jones wrote:We don't do balanced opinions around here. Best of luck with your search elsewhere though
You didn't offer an interesting critical analysis of VVD, you called him a "fraud".
To be fair he also said "he's a vile character".
With some of you lot I really wonder whether you've ever been to a football ground, fan pub or socially interacted during a football match outside of an online forum. This is one of our most hated rival's star player who on several occasions has shown that he's not above leaving in a stamp or a very late lazy leg. Why the fuck does anyone need a balancing counter argument when I call him a piece of shit?
Half the fun of being a football fan is directing vitriol and laughing at rivals. Can't really believe this concept needs explaining but here we are
jones wrote:arsedoc md wrote:Evvvvverybody gets conscious when they're no camera or a big screen like that and react and change behavior in some way or the other-usually trying to project a positive act. God I hate social media!! You guys need to chill.
Look at Mr I'm on a big screen on the reg over here
My broadcaster is playing that February 2011 “classic” 4-4 game with Newcastle. Another one of those many dark days. And we had good players out there. RvP, Fabregas, Arshavin, Koscielny etc.
That referee was bent. Our capitulation is not pardonable but this game, the one against Barcelona where RVP was sent off and may be Van Bronckhorst at Anfield were possibly the worst I can remember for performance or decisions from a ref.
On the game however, how we could go from scintillating in the first 20 minutes to a nervous wreck is beyond me.
What can Bronckhorst game is this?
Rohit wrote:That referee was bent.
Phil Dowd. I know people exaggerate all the time and say things like "the referee's on the take" to show frustration, but that 4-4 game is the only one I've ever seen where I've been completely convinced that the officiates were bribed. You could explain the referee who sent off Van Persie as him being a Barca fan, or even a fan of Spain in general, but how do you explain that fast bastard helping Newcastle to score four goals? Finding nonexistent penalties and freekicks everywhere, not even giving Barton a warning for a potential legbreaking studs up challenge on a planted foot but sending off Diaby for reacting to it... it was beyond bad.
Big Willie wrote:What can Bronckhorst game is this?
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