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William Saliba from St Etienne

Claudius

mdgoonah41 wrote:
maybe im in the minority on this, but im not a big fan of loaning him back this season. he might not be ready to dominate the premier league, but now his season next year will likely be very inconsistent as he tries to adjust. so if we are signing him to a 5 year deal and loaning him back, the first 2 years of his deal we wont be getting max value from him. acclimatizing to the league also means being around the first team and getting a feel for england as a whole. the upside of him going back on loan next season is that he gets regular playing time, but he'll be getting it in a mediocre team, in a lesser league. the downside is the lack of time to adjust to england and the risk of injury while hes not even playing for us

ive never seen this guy play, and im pretty confident he'd be better for us in defense than mustafi. this coming season just looks like a writeoff for the team in general, we're punting before the season even starts

This guy started 11 games. You want him to go on to be a starter AND adjust to a new league. I think that is asking for too much of a child.
The Mustafi question remains though. Somebody needs to play those 2400 Mustafi minutes this season. If not him, who? Holding did similar minutes to Saliba last year and is coming off injury. And Bielik is stepping up from playing against butchers and bakers.

JazzG

We definitely need to get rid of Mustafi and be looking at another CB for this summer. Saliba is one for the future, good to see us being proactive but we need someone for now as well. Especially if Koscielny leaves.

QuincyAbeyie

Mustafi did much better in a better league than this guy has done in his still very short career, and look how the German turned out. I'm not sure Saliba would hit the ground running, a lot of those risks he takes in the compilations would not go unpunished in the PL.

Kel Varnsen

Hope this doesn't come out of this year's budget. We need players now. Not next season.

Claudius

Kel Varnsen wrote:
Hope this doesn't come out of this year's budget. We need players now. Not next season.

I imagine that’s part of what made this attractive. We paid a lot of money and it was probably postponed to next year and subsequent years. There’s probably only a small holding fee of 5m pounds (or similar)

Klaus

Claudius wrote:
The Mustafi question remains though. Somebody needs to play those 2400 Mustafi minutes this season. If not him, who? Holding did similar minutes to Saliba last year and is coming off injury. And Bielik is stepping up from playing against butchers and bakers.

Kos and Sokratis are both here. I imagine Kos hasn't been allowed to leave yet for this exact reason. The plan is probably that Holding will get back early and start offloading them during the fall. Until then we've got Chambers as backup, and Monreal and Elneny as emergency options.

That's assuming Mustafi even leaves, which he probably won't. I can't imagine any club he wants to play for would willing to match his current wages.

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert

Elneny there 😆

Shady

The window shuts in one month. We haven't been linked with any senior centre backs, and there are no credible sources reporting of interest in Mustafi.

I really fear that he'll be racking up games for us again next season.

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert

Dreadful window. Nothing changes.

Ricky1985

[Twitter]

The journalist that has seemed to be the best informed on this deal throughout seems to be suggesting it will finally be done tomorrow.

QuincyAbeyie

So even the most reliable journalist regarding this transfer is someone who communicates using primarily emojis. That's reassuring.

In all seriousness, I really hope this is done and that it comes from next year's transfer budget.

Claudius

Why would it much of it come from this year’s budget? This is probably why we went so hard after this. To secure a good player without hurting this year’s funds significantly.

Bold Tone

Shady wrote:
The window shuts in one month. We haven't been linked with any senior centre backs, and there are no credible sources reporting of interest in Mustafi.

I really fear that he'll be racking up games for us again next season.

The past two summers, we have tried and failed to sell him.
I don't think we are pushing him out this summer as he is one of the more resilient defenders we have.
He is not a first team player but we do not have any better alternatives off the bench and with players as basic as Tyrone Mings going for 25m, we are not getting any one better.
Even if we get Saliba, he will need time to get used to the step up so Mustafi will still be useful.

QuincyAbeyie

Claudius wrote:
Why would it much of it come from this year’s budget? This is probably why we went so hard after this. To secure a good player without hurting this year’s funds significantly.

I'm saying that I hope so because I don't know how it works. Although if it does come out of next year's budget, you'd have to wonder why we pressed so hard to get him this year. If it comes out of next year's budget, then it would be much better to loan him back and spend the 30m on someone who would improve us more this season instead, and next year have Holding, that guy and Saliba as our three main CBs.

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert

Have to sign him now before he becomes a £60m player.

Klaus

Claudius wrote:
Why would it much of it come from this year’s budget?

Because St Etienne need both the money and the player presently. It's reportedly the reason we're having such a hard time negotiating. They need the cash to improve the team without having to immediately blow every cent on replacing him. We're probably not giving them everything up front, but I'm certain that the bulk of the money is coming out of this year's funds.

Claudius

If we contract the money, then St. Etienne can plan around it. That’s probably part of why we agreed what feels a rich figure. It would be odd to pay a large amount up front before receiving a good or a service. There are very few markets where I’ve seen this done. You’d typically pay a small deposit to show you’re good for your contract. And then the seller can use the contract with financiers to raise capital. The big fee could effectively pay for any interest that St Etienne has to face. We stretch money for both clubs in the process

Ricky1985

Surely the protracted negotiations shows we've given the absolute bare minimum upfront that we could get Saint Etienne to accept.

Tam

Claudius wrote:
If we contract the money, then St. Etienne can plan around it. That’s probably part of why we agreed what feels a rich figure. It would be odd to pay a large amount up front before receiving a good or a service. There are very few markets where I’ve seen this done. You’d typically pay a small deposit to show you’re good for your contract. And then the seller can use the contract with financiers to raise capital. The big fee could effectively pay for any interest that St Etienne has to face. We stretch money for both clubs in the process

That sounds like a number of huge jumps you’re making there, applying standard business principles to a very much non-standard market.

In any case, no matter how much it is, the cash we have to put up will certainly impact what we have to spend elsewhere this summer.

HomeSteak

[James Olley] Arsenal to complete £25m William Saliba transfer AND keep £40m summer budget

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/arsenal/arsenal-to-complete-25m-william-saliba-transfer-and-keep-majority-of-40m-summer-budget-a4184681.html

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