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Other Clubs Transfers 2018 Summer edition (Everton seek to burn 50m)

goon

That last 10-15% needed to go from also rans to serious challengers is incredibly difficult to achieve. In theory it's just an extra 6-9 points, how hard can that be when you have just spend 200m on improving the squad? The reality is the margins are so small at the top, with so many variables, that it doesn't work like that. This is where you earn your money as a manager.

Claudius

Goon, you underestimate the gap in quality between the Liverpool squad and City squad. Salah had a superhuman year and carried that team. If he wobbles next season and is good for a miserable 26 goals, that Liverpool team is in tough shape. These investments were critical to overcome that potential variance.

goon

Yeah, that's kinda what I meant by there being lots of variables.

For what it's worth I don't think the gap is all that big. City have a lot more depth but the first XI is comparable in my opinion. Controversial opinion maybe, but I don't think City's front 3 has a single top level player in it except for Aguero, who's becoming increasingly unreliable.

Mirth

@lorddulaarsenal wrote:
I think Liverpool are in for a tough season. Don’t think they can handle the expectation

This is true, the Scouse boom and bust cycle is a real thing.

Ray

goon wrote:
Ray wrote:
Klopp is very smart with controlling the media, building a positive momentum and fan morale. He announced Fabinho almost immediately after the CL final to keep the positive momentum, then he didn’t announce Ox’s long term injury until later and followed that up immediately by making a world record bid for a keeper. Wenger really didn’t place any importance on this.

Well I mean half of them were calling for his head in Jan so he can't be that great at it.

Also I don't think the pain of losing Ox would be enough the dent the enthusiasm of reaching a CL final and spending _£150m regardless of when you announced it.

Wenger's main problem was that when we had a season worth building on, we rarely did. The Sanchez summer is probably the one exception.

Maybe not but this is management of squad and fan morale, which is obviously linked to good results. Most of the teams that have won the last PLs they have used positive momentum to get a run of results.

The squad year were clearly lacking confidence and fans fighting to get wenger out was poorly managed by Wenger. After all the fans, manager and players want the same thing.

Qwiss

Clrnc wrote:
All of us said Liverpool needs a good defender and a good goalie to challenge, they have got a great one in both areas now. Sensible by Klopp to address his squad weakness immediately, something Wenger never ever does.

Its ok man, he can't hurt us any more.

ohboy

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marv3llous

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Claudius

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goon

Everton certainly know how to waste money.

Mirth

£50m for Ricarlison? 😆

Gazza M

Barca seem determined to get willian. 3rd bid in of 60m euros

Wonder if this what frees up dembele

goon

Barca and Madrid seem determined to become average.

BWoolley

Liverpool have got 12.5M for Danny Ward. Shows how average our sales are (bar Chamberlain) that we got a similar fee for Walcott.

Meatwad

it's not about being average in the sales dept, it's about being irresponsible in the wages dept. a transfer is a 3 party agreement. when a walcott transfer is on the table the buying club isn't going to pay big money to arsenal and match his arsenal wages.

oh and what everton is doing isn't funny because they help make the market impossible for a club like arsenal.

jones

Didn't we get around 20m for him? 29 years old winger who's biggest asset was always his pace, torn ACL, was on big wages and a very poor injury record overall. Agreed we can and have to improve on the selling front but Walcott isn't a good example

goon

We got 20m for Walcott and most people on here seemed to think that fee was hilarious.

Klaus

Mirth wrote:
£50m for Ricarlison? 😆

😆 I didn't see him in those five initial games where he apparently performed last year, but he looked like a complete houseboat on every other occasion. That fee is just unbelievable.

JazzG

Meatwad wrote:
it's not about being average in the sales dept, it's about being irresponsible in the wages dept. a transfer is a 3 party agreement. when a walcott transfer is on the table the buying club isn't going to pay big money to arsenal and match his arsenal wages.

Yup, it was this stupid wage structure which has made it hard to offload certain players. Players like Carl Jenkinson on something like £50k a week, why would he leave for a paycut and no club will pay that. So you either are stuck with the player or you offload them cheap.

Wenger and the board thought it was a good idea to have a socialist wage structure (where difference between top and bottom earners wasn't as big as some clubs) to promote harmony within the squad. Only thing it achieved was to disgruntle our players who should have been on top wages and lump us with bang average players who were earning too much other clubs wouldn't touch them.

marv3llous

Yeah, it will take another 4-5 years to undo all the damage this system did to us. By then we should be able to clean out every overpaid shitster Wenger ever employed and establish a new structure.

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