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The Ozil Money Pit

flobaba

Heavily featured in the behind the scenes training vids

Not sure what to make of it

Claudius

flobaba wrote:
Heavily featured in the behind the scenes training vids

Not sure what to make of it

Who is the publisher?

Mirth

Captain.

flobaba

Muswell Hill Gooner wrote:
Interesting.
The week-in, week-out Ozil questions have broken Emery as he demonstrated in his last post-match presser.
Wenger would have continued defending the board like he did for a decade but now we know this is Raul's strategy
I think fans will ease off from blaming him with the knowledge that it is a board directive and not a football decision.
Obviously money is the overriding factor, as Captain pointed out (up to £150k a week?), with the jackpot being Ozil accepting a lower wage which would help the club find a buyer.

It was clear as day Emery had the support and possibly even the encouragement of the board throughout this time, unless folks were choosing to be willfully ignorant.

Don’t think it will change anything from the fans who constantly clamor for Ozil. In their eyes he is the savior who is going to come in and have us playing beautiful football again and creating chances left right and center.

Until he doesn’t, and gets dropped, and then they’ll blame Emery for not playing him often enough to allow him regain a form we’d haven’t seen in 3 years...

Qwiss

flobaba wrote:
Heavily featured in the behind the scenes training vids

Not sure what to make of it

He's the easiest player to photograph because you don't need to run after him.

GooneriC

Forget Ozil , does the board support Emery and his brand of football? If so we are in big trouble where it matters and no different to Arsenal under egghead . On the pitch, we have been atrocious in the last year . I dont think anyone expects Ozil to magic wand the team to success ,but not using him at all and trying to fit the likes of Toreira in as AM to make up for shortcomings in the playmaking role is maniac behaviour.

Clrnc

Qwiss! wrote:
flobaba wrote:
Heavily featured in the behind the scenes training vids

Not sure what to make of it

He's the easiest player to photograph because you don't need to run after him.

Ffs 😆

Claudius

GooneriC wrote:
Forget Ozil , does the board support Emery and his brand of football? If so we are in big trouble where it matters and no different to Arsenal under egghead . On the pitch, we have been atrocious in the last year . I dont think anyone expects Ozil to magic wand the team to success ,but not using him at all and trying to fit the likes of Toreira in as AM to make up for shortcomings in the playmaking role is maniac behaviour.

Is it correct to talk about a play-making role in a discussion about Ozil? I think it inflates his importance and detracts from our inability to build attack coherently throughout the team. We aren’t able to create all the way from the back. The ball too often trombones amongst our back 6 players and never makes it to the halfway line. When it does progress to midfield, we then find that the spacing with forwards makes it hard to have passing exchanges that advanced the ball to the opposition penalty area. Ozil was an excellent creative but I fear that he wouldn’t do much to address our problems. We have coaching issues first and foremost, not personnel.

flobaba

GooneriC wrote:
Forget Ozil , does the board support Emery and his brand of football? If so we are in big trouble where it matters and no different to Arsenal under egghead .

I was actually contemplating this last week. The only thing I could come up with is that the club is invested in Emery. They understood the significance of the first coach post Wenger, and they supposedly did their homework and had their criteria of selection which he must have met, and exceeded. He was thought to be a better candidate than Arteta for example. They made their choice, and will probably stick with it through the end of his contract next year, unless something they consider catastrophic or unacceptable happens.

Klaus

The word was we had earmarked Arteta but Gazidis got cold feet at the last minute and Emery's CV conveniently showed up. We supposedly had been in touch with Thomas Tuchel before then too. Who knows what really was going on though.

GooneriC

Can't really blame the board for the appointment , they did what they thought was right . If it isn't working out surely they have to do what's right by the club , if Emery isn't working as planned you have to change him.
Not sure Arteta would have worked , and Tuchel skipped us in favour of PSG.

Clrnc

Didn't we pick Emery based on his amazing powerpoint slides and video editing, knowledge of our young players?

Gazidis similarly picked Marco Giampaolo and now Stefano Pioli for Milan. He has superb knowledge of world class coaches.

Bold Tone

Ozil invisible, as always, away from home.

Klaus

Literally left us with ten people on the pitch when that goal was scored. Disgraceful.

Claudius

Lol. What a difference this guy makes to our game. It’s not just the passing. But it’s the ability to move with the ball at feet. Ceballos is the only other player who can carry the ball (but his passing is deteriorating with each passing game). Ozil just allows us to hold onto possession, plan attacks better. Not constantly losing the ball also leaves us less vulnerable to transitions.

In the 4331, I wonder if we use Ceballos wide like Spain and Pépé on the other flank if that can work. Ozil central. Just gives us more players who can nuke up a coherent attack. Plus Pépé can score as well behind Aubameyang

Gazza M

Ive thought about that setup claud. Ceballos can tuck into midfield when we're defending, and there's enough technical ability to string moves together un attack

Klaus

The problem with that setup is that it doesn't really work for Spain either. He's absolutely dreadful on the wing.

Anzac

Muswell Hill Gooner wrote:
Interesting.
The week-in, week-out Ozil questions have broken Emery as he demonstrated in his last post-match presser.
Wenger would have continued defending the board like he did for a decade but now we know this is Raul's strategy
I think fans will ease off from blaming him with the knowledge that it is a board directive and not a football decision.
Obviously money is the overriding factor, as Captain pointed out (up to £150k a week?), with the jackpot being Ozil accepting a lower wage which would help the club find a buyer.

I disagree that it's anything to do with 150k/week, as at worst that amounts to 7.8m per year, whereas CL Group Stage was worth about 35m last time we were in it. Even if we were to combine the 150k to Ozil's wages of 350k/week then we're still only talking 26m per year. Financially we have more to gain by playing Ozil to play to regain CL revenues, rather than paying him 18.2m to sit at home so as to 'save' 7.8m per year.

Whilst our wages were an issue last season that's not the case this season. Not only have we lost a number of wage earners (Rambo, Welbeck, Mkhi, Kos, Iwobi, Monreal, Lichtsteiner, Elneny), we've also improved our revenues via the new kit deal with Addidas. So far neither Laca nor PEA have signed new deals, and Pepe would not be on huge wages despite his transfer fee. Lastly the domestic FFP re wages increase per season as a fixed % of revenues has ended as at the end of last season.

I don't think it's anything more than Ozil not fitting Emery's preference as CAM & the new structure have supported him in his decision made last season re both Ozil & Rambo (as well as the DoF decision re Rambo's contract negotiations).
Similarly I think Emery feels he cannot afford to take Ozil back with open arms because he will lose credibility in his role as Head Coach after trying to get him to leave over the best part of 18 months.

Anzac

Claudius wrote:
Lol. What a difference this guy makes to our game. It’s not just the passing. But it’s the ability to move with the ball at feet. Ceballos is the only other player who can carry the ball (but his passing is deteriorating with each passing game). Ozil just allows us to hold onto possession, plan attacks better. Not constantly losing the ball also leaves us less vulnerable to transitions.

In the 4331, I wonder if we use Ceballos wide like Spain and Pépé on the other flank if that can work. Ozil central. Just gives us more players who can nuke up a coherent attack. Plus Pépé can score as well behind Aubameyang

Would mean we'd need to drop one of PEA or Laca to make way for Ceballos as LWF.
I'd rather play him as DLP in a supporting role with Torreira as DM/deepest/defensive CM.
IMO trying to convert Torreria to play as CAM to pressure the ball doesn't work unless it is part of a coordinated press from the front, otherwise it's about as useful as Xhaka as deepest CM as DLP.

Claudius

Just play Torreira in the pivot with Guendouzi. This business of Torreira foraging and pressing is a waste of time. It only works if the whole team participates. Otherwise you just have one man burning energy and leaving himself at risk of being beaten by teams that pass well out of pressure. Then you have an unprotected defense.

I would give Ceballos, Ozil and Pépé freedom to interchange a bit. Along with Aubameyang. If those guys can get and keep the ball higher up the pitch, we will just score more. You don’t need to have Lacazette on the field.

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