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Bold Tone

In the mid-1960s, Santos and Brazil legend Pele just couldn’t work out why his form had slumped so badly. Then he twigged: it was obviously because he’d given his lucky shirt to a Santos fan. The garment was tracked down and returned to its owner, and Pele’s form returned once more to its sublime best. There is a ~~devilish~~ twist to the tale, though.
https://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/5699/puma/2014/01/21/4557346/start-believing-peles-lucky-shirt-loco-rituals-beard-bets

MuswellHillGooner

I've always thought a Ferrari should always be red but Auba's is :gape:

jones

Another one just for Tone

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This after they failed to trademark that Ale Ale Ale chant which is one of the most widely used chants and which they didn't even invent 😆

Klaus

How do you even begin to apply for a trademark when you're literally named after a fucking city 😆

Bold Tone

jones wrote:
Another one just for Tone

This after they failed to trademark that Ale Ale Ale chant which is one of the most widely used chants and which they didn't even invent 😆

Fenway Sports Group (John W. Henry and Tom Werner), submitted an application to trademark the name of the city and Liverpool fans were against them which you would've found out if you read beyond the headlines.
http://www.spiritofshankly.com/news/liverpool-is-not-for-trademarking
https://www.footballfancast.com/premier-league/liverpool/liverpool-fans-are-furious-with-fsgs-attempts-to-trademark-liverpool

You are also wrong in regards to the Allez chant as you will find that they did not fail but withdrew the request after the furore.

banduan

which plonker told them it's possible to trademark a city name? Not even Liverpool City Council would be able to do that.

jones

Mate you're embarrassing yourself. "If I had read more than the headlines" you're talking about whatever a website called "spirit of Shankly" 😆 says as if it were more relevant than what the club owners do.

As for the chant how am I wrong exactly? They wanted to trademark that too (as well as the term "6 times" :lol🙂, I never said it was rejected but objectively they failed with that attempt too. If you weren't so determined to somehow defend whatever they do you'd see how ridiculous this sounds

Claudius

Well, this year Ohio State University tried to trademark the word “the” as in “the Ohio state university” mainly for use on t-shirts, caps and other merchandise

Bold Tone

jones wrote:
Mate you're embarrassing yourself. "If I had read more than the headlines" you're talking about whatever a website called "spirit of Shankly" 😆 says as if it were more relevant than what the club owners do.

As for the chant how am I wrong exactly? They wanted to trademark that too (as well as the term "6 times" :lol🙂, I never said it was rejected but objectively they failed with that attempt too. If you weren't so determined to somehow defend whatever they do you'd see how ridiculous this sounds

Your assertion that Liverpool should be hated by Gooners more than spurs, manu, chelsea and stoke is leading you to ridiculous desperation.
I showed you evidence that it was the yanks who applied for the trademark and hardcore liverpool supporters (spirit of Shankly) resisting it.
You have no comeback as what I've produced is fact so you resort to an ad hominem argument to obfuscate the debate.
In regards to the chant, you claimed an untruth that the application had failed and I corrected you on a technicality by showing proof that it was a withdrawal.
Like I told you days ago, give it up.
This is what it is and this is how it will remain with you in the 21% group (5th)!

Bold Tone

Furthermore, it's not as if they are the only scummy club doing it.

Tottenham
https://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/the-club/brand-protection/

Chelsea
https://trademarking.in/details/Chelsea-Fc-1522433.html

They can actually trademark their name Liverpool FC, but attempting to trademark Liverpool alone to punish anyone who uses the city's name in the general context of football is crossing a line.

As Claudius has pointed out, if you want ridiculous,

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/14/us/the-ohio-state-university-trademark-trnd/index.html

Claudius

Stoke are our 4th rivals? What does that mean?

jones

I never said Liverpool should be hated more than Spurs United or Chelsea, stop making shit up. And where was the ad hominem? I said you sound ridiculous and as if to prove it instead of joining in taking the piss out of Liverpool you defend them by saying Tottenham Chelsea and fucking Ohio do it too.

And really, I told an untruth? I said Liverpool failed to trademark it which is technically and literally 100% accurate and now you're again making stuff up claiming I said the application had failed. Not only is this a lie why on earth would you an Arsenal fan correct another Arsenal fan on this alleged technicality? You're just arguing for the sake of an argument. I'm done with this

Captain

Claudius wrote:
Stoke are our 4th rivals? What does that mean?

I'd venture that it means the survey required three choices and after Tottenham and United (due to Wenger years) everyone involved was left scratching their heads.

Claudius

Captain wrote:
Claudius wrote:
Stoke are our 4th rivals? What does that mean?

I'd venture that it means the survey required three choices and after Tottenham and United (due to Wenger years) everyone involved was left scratching their heads.

It goes beyond that. That table neatly goes on to match. The levels of rivalry. So we in turn are Stoke’s 4th rival. Someone spent the time perfectly cutting this data so you have table with diagonal symmetry and little relevance to a fan. Fuck Stoke. The only time I think about them is when they bring their Neanderthals out to bludgeon our boys

Bold Tone

Bold Tone wrote:
Stoke are only ahead of them because of the Ramsey situation and even then it's only by 1%

It was more disgusting when Shawcross was doing well (winning an England cap) and Ramsey's recovery was in the balance.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/12104602/Stoke-City-fans-condemned-for-vile-chants-about-Aaron-Ramsey.html

This will reduce over time as Ramsey recovered and the memory fades. I hazard a guess that if this survey was done 5 years ago, they would be much higher than 22% and a few years of them in obscurity will lead to new supporters forgetting about them as our paths would hardly cross.
I'm old enough to have been there in the 80s when Liverpool were dominating and so were hated by all and sundry and their hooligans (I watched the whole Juve shenanigans including the crowd trouble before the game live) led to the blanket ban which meant George Graham's successful team was unable to compete in Europe probably costing us a European Cup as English clubs were better than mainland European clubs by some margin.
At that time, they would have been a clear second (most hated) on that list with Man Utd a distant third and Wimbledon the "Stoke of the day".
In the nineties, there were a couple of years Leeds (under O'Leary) could've made that list and Chelsea in the noughties would be higher.
Edit:
If it is done today, City may creep in and Liverpool would poll higher as they are at the top of the league similar to how manu were disliked much more when they were dominating.

Bold Tone

"You're a money grabber", "You don't respect the shirt", "You're a virus, you are killing this club".

Those were the kind of messages I was getting every day on social media during the final months of my time at Aston Villa, and of course they hurt.

I would be wondering how anyone could say that about me if they knew where I had come from, how hard I had worked, and what I was like as a person.

But when you are an injured footballer, especially when you are out for as long as I was, you find out all about the dark side of the game.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/49845993

Big Willie

Such a shame. Always had a bit of a soft spot for Richards. Sad to see what he's gone through.

MuswellHillGooner

Big Willie

Like that old "How many countries in the UK?" question. Some people just don't have common sense.

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