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Other clubs transfer thread Summer 2017 ( Barcelona sign Dembele)

Clrnc

Bryant wrote:
Klaus wrote:
He's a third rate defender. Nothing wrong with his talent but he's been playing like a real ass ever since he signed for Milan. Juve are buying a guy who wouldn't get into most Serie A teams in the upper half of the table on merit.

As for De Sciglio he's one of the best fullback talents to emerge in a long time, but what good does that do when he can't stay fit. Bloke is almost 25 now and hasn't developed an inch since the day he broke through.

Juve seems to do well with CB's though. Bonucci and barzagli weren't that rated when they signed with Juve. Ranocchia was considered better than Bonucci.

As for Milan, they have clearly upgraded at RB with Andrea Conti. Surprised Juve weren't in for him.

Juve looks like they're going for Bernardeschi after getting Costa.

With the way Milan are splurging out, they might have this:

Aubameyang - Andre Silva
Calhanoglu
Rodriguez --- Biglia --- Kessie --- Conti
Musacchio - Bonucci - Romagnoli
Donnarumma

Milan really ain't messing around. Good to have them back as a strong club

Claudius

Spurs have the best negotiators for outgoing transfers in the business. I wouldn't pay a bag of myrrh for Kyle Walker. That's £50m less for City to spend on Sanchez. We should tell them £100m if they come sniffing around

Clrnc

Claudius wrote:
Spurs have the best negotiators for outgoing transfers in the business. I wouldn't pay a bag of myrrh for Kyle Walker. That's £50m less for City to spend on Sanchez. We should tell them £100m if they come sniffing around

Mirror, who first broke the news now saying the whole deal for Walker will be about 100m.

lorddulaarsenal

Walker's good though

Anzac

Clrnc wrote:
Bryant wrote:
Juve seems to do well with CB's though. Bonucci and barzagli weren't that rated when they signed with Juve. Ranocchia was considered better than Bonucci.

As for Milan, they have clearly upgraded at RB with Andrea Conti. Surprised Juve weren't in for him.

Juve looks like they're going for Bernardeschi after getting Costa.

With the way Milan are splurging out, they might have this:

Aubameyang - Andre Silva
Calhanoglu
Rodriguez --- Biglia --- Kessie --- Conti
Musacchio - Bonucci - Romagnoli
Donnarumma

Milan really ain't messing around. Good to have them back as a strong club

They're in the EUROPA next season as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017%E2%80%9318_UEFA_Europa_League

Anzac

Clrnc wrote:
Claudius wrote:
Spurs have the best negotiators for outgoing transfers in the business. I wouldn't pay a bag of myrrh for Kyle Walker. That's £50m less for City to spend on Sanchez. We should tell them £100m if they come sniffing around

Mirror, who first broke the news now saying the whole deal for Walker will be about 100m.

Does that include potential player bonuses and wages ??

If it's just fee related I'd be asking what they're smoking up at Citeh,
and try to flog some of our HG dead wood - Gibbs, Jenkinson etc.

Bryant

For anyone who wants the backstory as to why Alves and Bonucci are leaving Juve:

Apparently, they had a half time spat during the UCL Final in which Alves thought Dybala was playing like a pu**y and Allegri told him to chill. Then Bonucci sides with Alves, Barzagli tries to calm everybody down, and then Bonucci calls out Barzagli for constantly losing Marcelo. Barzagli then tells Bonucci that he was at fault for the first goal and the two almost fight but Allegri steps in to divide them.

And then that abysmal 2nd half happens.

😆

Anzac

Bryant wrote:
For anyone who wants the backstory as to why Alves and Bonucci are leaving Juve:

Apparently, they had a half time spat during the UCL Final in which Alves thought Dybala was playing like a pu**y and Allegri told him to chill. Then Bonucci sides with Alves, Barzagli tries to calm everybody down, and then Bonucci calls out Barzagli for constantly losing Marcelo. Barzagli then tells Bonucci that he was at fault for the first goal and the two almost fight but Allegri steps in to divide them.

And then that abysmal 2nd half happens.

😆

Perhaps we can make an offer for Dybala if we don't land Mbappe?

TambourineMan

Anybody know a website with easy to access confirmed moves for all PL clubs in one window. Sporting Life had a great transfer center as recently as even last season I think but it's gone now for whatever reason. Pretty annoying. So yeah, any suggestions?

Clrnc

Bryant wrote:
For anyone who wants the backstory as to why Alves and Bonucci are leaving Juve:

Apparently, they had a half time spat during the UCL Final in which Alves thought Dybala was playing like a pu**y and Allegri told him to chill. Then Bonucci sides with Alves, Barzagli tries to calm everybody down, and then Bonucci calls out Barzagli for constantly losing Marcelo. Barzagli then tells Bonucci that he was at fault for the first goal and the two almost fight but Allegri steps in to divide them.

And then that abysmal 2nd half happens.

😆

Amazing story. Only a weak manager can let this happen in a UCL final.

Claudius

Anzac wrote:
Bryant wrote:
For anyone who wants the backstory as to why Alves and Bonucci are leaving Juve:

Apparently, they had a half time spat during the UCL Final in which Alves thought Dybala was playing like a pu**y and Allegri told him to chill. Then Bonucci sides with Alves, Barzagli tries to calm everybody down, and then Bonucci calls out Barzagli for constantly losing Marcelo. Barzagli then tells Bonucci that he was at fault for the first goal and the two almost fight but Allegri steps in to divide them.

And then that abysmal 2nd half happens.

😆

Perhaps we can make an offer for Dybala if we don't land Mbappe?

i would kill for that bad boy.

Irishgunner

Tambourine Man wrote:
Anybody know a website with easy to access confirmed moves for all PL clubs in one window. Sporting Life had a great transfer center as recently as even last season I think but it's gone now for whatever reason. Pretty annoying. So yeah, any suggestions?

Transfermarkt

Bold Tone

Ricky1985 wrote:
Clrnc wrote:
Yeah Walker and Mendy are huge huge upgrades on Clichy and Sagna. Can't imagine the world most expensive defender is now Kyle Walker though. Amazing.

They're still just fullbacks though. And both pretty poor defenders to boot and although explosive going forward, they're both inefficient in the final third. Both a bit meatheaded, for want for a better way to out it!

The worse they are, the better the outcome is for tottenham who are, now, our direct rivals.
I don't really care about petro-dollars city but that silly cash strengthens the hand of the spuds whichever way you look at it.
They are in a stronger position to fend off teams trying to poach their better players (alli and kane) as they now have the money to pay them.

Qwiss

Kyle Walker is a good athlete but he's a shit footballer. When are other clubs going to realise being good under Pochetinno doesn't make you a good player.

Ricky1985

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40598351

The fee is £45m + £5m in add-ons. It's a crazy amount for a donut like Kyle Walker but it's in keeping with what others are going for: Mendy £40m + add-ons, Harry Maguire £17m, Nathan Ake £20m + add-ons, Michael Keane £25m + £6m add-ons.

The market has gone crazy and whoever Spurs try and buy with their money they'll pay the earth for as well. And, a thick footballer he may be, but Kyle Walker will be good for City. He's the best rght back in the League in my view.

Gurgen

Guys like Walker aren't going to make the difference for City. I'm delighted our rivals are blowing money on these donkeys.

Claudius

Best right back in which league, Ricky?
I wouldn't piss on him, nor take him over Bellerin or Trippier. And depending on how you deploy him, Azpilicueta is better.

lorddulaarsenal

Agree with Ricky. He was also the best right back at the last Euros

Ricky1985

Tripper! Jesus's wept is that even serious?

I dislike Walker immensely and have always argued he's an overrated knobhead of a footballer but he was comfortably the best right back in the League last season. Bellerin had a shocking season and Tripper is not even worth mentioning - he's completely average in every sense.

I think it's true that the way Pochetinno plays football, the fullbacks are vitally important and therefore look better than they would elsewhere, but Walker will do well for City and give them some much needed width because of how narrow Guardiola’s teams tend to become without good overlapping fullbacks.

Kieran Tripper! 😆

goon

Well Trippier has usurped Walker for club and country so he can't be that bad or Walker can't be that good. He got 5 assists in 6 league stars too, compared to Walker who got 5 in 31 starts.

Hector was 21yrs of age and had a poor period when almost literally every member of the squad looked shocking. As soon as we changed systems he looked fantastic again, culminating in a superb performance in the cup final.

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