Qwiss! wrote:
You weren't complaining about mob rule when it was Spacey, CK, Weinstein, etc who were dropped, fired, shamed (and rightfully so) before there was due process. Franken groped women and forcefully kissed women who didn't want it. Just because Moore is worse doesn't excuse Frankens disgusting behaviour. OF course the Republicans wont go after Moore, their leader is a scumbag misogynist, they are a party of misogynists. If the Democrats want the high ground then they have to be better. Otherwise whats the fucking point of existing?
I was absolutely complaining, on this very forum, in fact.
Whatever the Dems do, it shouldn't have anything to do with what the GOP does. It should be because they have to do what is in accordance with their own internal code of ethics and with the law. Franken should demonstrate in a clear way that he has developed his own personal ethics as a servant of the people, and yes, he should resign. Not because people want him to, but because he realizes that it is the right thing to do.
I, again, am sure beyond the surest surety that this runs far deeper than just those who there is evidence against, or those who have victims that are willing to say something. If I were the dems, I would form an in-party ethical investigation team that consisted of people who have first-hand experience with these kinds of attacks from diverse backgrounds, men and women, and start with Franken and Conyers. I would begin an open investigation, well-briefed to the media, and swiftly recommend that they resign. Franken, at least, could then continue to advocate for victims and stay in the party to help foster a new attitude. Over time, if it truly takes hold, the new paradigm will inevitably result in huge swathes of politicians from every party being revealed as not only complicit, but possibly guilty of similar and likely worse offenses.
The point of existing should be to offer a hopeful future, not to simply condemn the present so you can say, "Hey, we're disgusting pigs, but you guys are even worse."
They can still resign, they can still be disgraced, and all that good blood-letting you're baying for, but it should be done the right way, for the right reasons, or nothing will ever, ever change.
We need structural reform and cultural change, not random sackings and resignations based on whoever gets called out first.