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How do you rate this summers transfer dealings?

Claudius

Eh? Our offense flows better with fast players. It puts more pressure on our opponents, and we tend to score earlier in the games. That's the first post (which points to an issue I didn't buy into earlier this season)
That has nothing to do with the point in the other post about recall and memory. All I said that people are more likely to complain about an issue in offense than an issue in defense.
That said, you can continue to improve this team on both ends. I think we are poorly coached in every part of the park.

General

The first post (Flo's one) also said Giroud is evidently not the problem. Are you saying this is simply a memory issue and the criticisms can't be substantiated like you've suggested in previous posts only to appear to change your stance recently. It's obviously a divisive topic and some consistency in opinion would prevent the merry go round debates.

Claudius

What Flo referred to was the fact that relative to our rivals, we do not have a problem scoring goals as we are second only to Liverpool in that department. And I agree that scoring goals is not our biggest problem. Our problems lie in our style of play.

Let's disaggregate the Giroud issue

In the past I have been an ardent supporter of his. I think he's a good player, and he is very unfairly vilified on this forum. People make him out to be the root of all our evil, which is completely unfair. Too often on this forum, he has been the default target of criticim irrespective of the game context
That said, I look at a lot of our most dominant performances this season where we score early, and keep the opposition pinned back, and recognise that is with a smaller, faster strikers. This style of play where we are more fluid leaves us less susceptible to opposition pressure. Also, stylistically, it looks more attractive. Let me at least have that if Wenger is going to fuck around and chase nothing but a Top 4 finish with his limited self

Qwiss

flobaba wrote:
What amuses me most about all of this is that I've somehow become a Giroud apologist. And it's not like I even like our style of play when he starts for us.

I just refuse to accept the simplistic view that he is the main problem with our attack.

Yeah I actually wanted Sanchez up top today but the reasons people have given for dropping Giroud are nonsense. And that game today proved that all the same problems still exist when he isn't playing.

Claudius

Qs, real problem is the manager. He offers nothing.

Qwiss

Claudius wrote:
Qs, real problem is the manager. He offers nothing.

Definitely. Opposition fans are mocking him in the stands. He has no shame.

General

Claudius wrote:
What Flo referred to was the fact that relative to our rivals, we do not have a problem scoring goals as we are second only to Liverpool in that department. And I agree that scoring goals is not our biggest problem. Our problems lie in our style of play.

Let's disaggregate the Giroud issue

In the past I have been an ardent supporter of his. I think he's a good player, and he is very unfairly vilified on this forum. People make him out to be the root of all our evil, which is completely unfair. Too often on this forum, he has been the default target of criticim irrespective of the game context

That said, I look at a lot of our most dominant performances this season where we score early, and keep the opposition pinned back, and recognise that is with a smaller, faster strikers. This style of play where we are more fluid leaves us less susceptible to opposition pressure. Also, stylistically, it looks more attractive. Let me at least have that if Wenger is going to fuck around and chase nothing but a Top 4 finish with his limited self

Choose your position and stick with it otherwise you could easily be accused of being fickle. You can't keep changing your mind after every game. Good job none of us have coaching badges. And I made the point about scoring not being a problem, not Wengerball. If you want to decompose the issue of who should lead our attack, you need to go back a few seasons and understand what's been tried, tested and ultimately failed.

General

And Chelsea fans can mock Wenger all the want. As fans sang in reply, where were they when they were shit. Thanks to laundered money, they've become relevant.

General

Qwiss! wrote:
flobaba wrote:
What amuses me most about all of this is that I've somehow become a Giroud apologist. And it's not like I even like our style of play when he starts for us.

I just refuse to accept the simplistic view that he is the main problem with our attack.

Yeah I actually wanted Sanchez up top today but the reasons people have given for dropping Giroud are nonsense. And that game today proved that all the same problems still exist when he isn't playing.

Based on one game against the league leaders? Come on now.

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