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The Havertz's Knee Memorial Injury Thread

Qwiss

We needed a forward, ideally a striker but a winger would have helped. Not sure what Vieira would have been able to help with.

Mirth

Qwiss I mean at this point we need bodies. We’re looking at Sterling, Nwaneri and Trossard as our only options till March.

Also Vieira played RW for us and was no worse than Sterling there

Qwiss

Mirth I don't think thats true. Vieira on the wing was like a training dummy. Sterling has been shit but he still offers more than that. TBH I don't think you'd get any more from Vieira on the right wing than you would from Zinchenko or Merino out there.

Burnwinter

JazzG Oh my god....

Out for the season. Well blow me down.

Bloody hell though, it's been a year. Fuckin' bullshit all round.

Mirth We’re looking at Sterling, Nwaneri and Trossard as our only options till March.

Could've just brought in, uh … [checks notes] … Olly Watkins and … [checks notes] … ~~we'd be winning the~~ … [checks notes] … we'd be paying an extra £15m a year in wages!

tazmania

Tierney and Zinny will be wing options for rest of the season. Even MLS will be

Coombs

TambourineMan just listen to what he's said, no real need to read into this one.

Anyway, I've been right all along on this. Despicable excuses for two transfer windows from Arsenal.

IBL

What a season of injuries, unfathomable.

Sterling up top is gonna be a depressing watch.

Rohit

We literally broke 2 key players ourselves. 3 starting forwards, 3 torn hamstrings.

Don Pacifico

Rohit whilst that's not untrue, there also too many matches in the calendar. Thanks FIFA and UEFA...

JazzG

Rohit We literally broke 2 key players ourselves. 3 starting forwards, 3 torn hamstrings.

Yup, Jesus injury was just bad luck but these three injuries are purely down to them being run into the ground.

Mirth

Don Pacifico and while that’s not untrue, clubs also have sufficient time to prepare for fixture congestion. They don’t suddenly realise that they have to play those extra games the night before..

Claudius

Don Pacifico we have our own poor planning, but City just had to go out and buy 5 new players in January. Real were missing 3 defenders yesterday. Spurs, United, Chelsea have all had horrible injury issues.
Been saying for a few years that the lack of coordination amongst the FAs, the Leagues, UEFA and FIFA is going to kill the players. Everyone is trying to extract as much as possible.

Qwiss

JazzG if I keep stepping on a rake and the rake keeps hitting me in the face is that bad luck?

Sicario2

JazzG Jesus getting injured is not bad luck when the bloke is injury prone.

Ben White getting injured is bad luck. Tomi getting injured is not bad luck.

On that note we really need to look after Timber.

Don Pacifico

Claudius we have our own poor planning, but City just had to go out and buy 5 new players in January.

And...we're yet to see that have a noticeable impact on their performances. Still time left this season but there's a good chance it'll end up demonstrating that a January trolley dash isn't a guarantee of fixing anything.

Dom I think this is also pertinent when thinking about how we as a fanbase react. The abuse most players get from their own fans in the stadium at the slightest mistake is embarrassing. Dread to think what morons are sending to them in their DMs.

JazzG

Sicario2 Jesus getting injured is not bad luck when the bloke is injury prone.

He wasn't injury prone when we bought him....

Dom

Some thing to keep in mind is that anxiety and stress can contribute to muscular injuries because of increased semipermanent tension in muscles.

Havertz, whatever you think of him, is our only striker and is carrying a huge burden in the league and CL. He's also aware of public opinion that he's not good enough (even though he wasn't originally bought as a striker).

Having a deep squad benefits the players mentally.

QuincyAbeyie

JazzG he certainly was when the transfer window closed this summer.

Claudius

QuincyAbeyie Quincy is right. Best predictor of the next moment is what happened in the last.
And as this season has gone on I have raised a question around how these injuries will impact the remaining players. Seeing how Martinelli and Havertz have failed makes one wonder what is in store for Odegaard and Trossard. I think further back we have sufficient security but those particular players have no cover. That's my main concern now. We could be playing 4-6-0 😆

JazzG

QuincyAbeyie I agree which is why I've said a few times now that our summer business has come to bite us on the arse. January I've seen people say we should just pay the money but what is the player doesn't want to join? January is a hard window to do business, the summer is where we really let ourselves down.

Even if we had signed a player we'd be short, less fucked than we are now but still short. Having four of our attacking players out in one go, with three being out long term is unprecedented. Is this just down to load management or has something gone seriously wrong with our training regime?

Claudius

Don Pacifico
I just think some analyst somewhere was supposed to run some load numbers on players and his scenarios were way off what could actually happen. And here we are.
The best way to think about it is how exhausting the schedule was for us as fans from August to November. It was relentless. How would it have felt for the players then?
It’s one thing to get the prediction wrong in August- every model is wrong as soon as you make it; but it’s quite another to not react after the fact in January.

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