You'd see the importance of ball playing keepers when teams man-mark your defenders to disrupt your build up play. You'll have to resort to hoofing the ball with a non ball playing keeper, and that is simply not done for a team like Barca or a Guardiola team.

De Bruyne must be top 5 in the world at the moment. He's such an outstanding footballer.

Ter Stegen must be the worst starting keeper I've ever seen at a top club. Second and third goals were both on him

De Bryune? Not even in the top 5 in England.

Sterling passed for the first goal when he had a 50-50 shot on goal. I have seen everything now. I bow to you pep guardiola.

Leverkusen playing some endearing football.

Roger Schmidt is quality at coaching the high press, remember his Red bull Salzburg side being excellent at it.

Spurs look ordinary so far

because they are ordinary.

damnnnnnnn

Gareth Bale with a fantastic goal:

Alli is one of the biggest divers in England now. It's amazing how ignored it is.

Rohit wrote:

Alli is one of the biggest divers in England now. It's amazing how ignored it is.

This. Have been thinking the same for a while without ever saying it

hahaha yessss get in

Been coming

hahahaha Lever score

Christ Spurs are dull.

Spurs In The Blood (@SpursInTheBlood) tweeted at 9:09 PM on Wed, Nov 02, 2016:
Don't want Sunday to come. Absolutely dreading it.

haha how f'king shite is walker

The Leverkuson RB looks quality. Just checked his age, he's only 19!!

Spurs were absolutely woeful, if we dont get all 3 points from them this Sunday Wenger should retire.

Tactics wrote:

The Leverkuson RB looks quality. Just checked his age, he's only 19!!

we're looking for young left backs.

We could top our group and still face one of Real, Bayern, Juventus as it stands.

kyle walker is spurs most creative player

Him and Rose are their most important players

Nice to see one of our former players taking down Spurs...

Who?

Tactics wrote:

Roger Schmidt is quality at coaching the high press, remember his Red bull Salzburg side being excellent at it.

Been found out at Bundesliga. He is very inflexible, can only play one way and refuse to compromise, making opponents countering his tactics easily.

That said, when his team is up for it they are fun to watch. Should have won last match against Spurs as well. They outpressed them and missed loads of chances.

The German teams seem to be weaker this year. Wouldn't mind getting Bayern too much this time around. Dortmund doing well in CL so far, but surprised about their form in the league, already 8 points off Bayern despite Bayern seemingly not being as dominant as before.

Clrnc wrote:

Tactics wrote:

Roger Schmidt is quality at coaching the high press, remember his Red bull Salzburg side being excellent at it.

Been found out at Bundesliga. He is very inflexible, can only play one way and refuse to compromise, making opponents countering his tactics easily.

No different from Pochettino then. Spurs look great when teams try to play a passing game and they (Spurs) do the pressing like their match against City, but they look absolutely clueless when teams focus on pressing them high up the pitch (see Bournemouth ,  Leverkuson) - this is how we should approach the game on Sunday.

Klopp also looked very 1 dimensional in his last year at Dortmund, teams had figured out how to play against his team and he couldn't play in another way. It seems most managers who base their game on a high press can only play one way.

Actually all the top teams in Europe look weaker compared to recent times.

Barca have poor depth in all areas, an average goalkeeper and slow midfielders. Busquets especially looks in poor shape, Dani Alves is gone etc. City exposed their glaring weaknesses. Even when they lost 4-0 to Barca they threatened them greatly until Bravo had a brain hemorrhage.

Real Madrid look pretty unconvincing overall. A 3-3 draw to Legia last night after leading 2-0 is pretty preposterous.

Atletico will probably go far again but they need Griezmann to carry them with his goals. So far he hasn't been great this season.

I think the door is open for one of the underdogs to win it this season. Possibly PSG, City or dare I say it?

Quincy Abeyie wrote:

Who?

Kevin Kampl...

Ivansen wrote:

Quincy Abeyie wrote:

Who?

Kevin Kampl...

huh?

Spurs lost to a goal by Kevin Kampl who is being equated phonetically to Kevin Campbell (our former striker).

Watching the Spurs match, the LB Benjamin Mendy looks really interesting.

Too bad we missed out on Sidibe, could have been a very good backup RB.

Monaco have used the James millions well and bought loads of highly talented youngsters, their team's average age must be around 20.

Elsewhere Dortmund are leading 5-2 vs Legia after just 30 minutes

Clattenburg in the thick of it again. Sevilla go 1-0 up, Vazquez is booked twice within five minutes then Juve get a penalty. Sampaoli looks like he's about to run on the pitch and choke him