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The TV Thread (GoT spoilers)

QuincyAbeyie

Did that really happen on True Detective..?

Burnwinter

Lads: do not spoil me on True Detective, please.

Gurgen

Watching True Detective after watching Game of Thrones is like watching Özil after watching Flamini.

goon

Started watching SoA recently, up to the beginning of season 3. It's a great show to binge on.

These guys have to be the nicest bikers on the planet though, needs to be a little more dark.

Qwiss

Gurgen wrote:
Watching True Detective after watching Game of Thrones is like watching Özil after watching Flamini.

GOT is a lot like Ozil. It has been great, it still has great moments but you are often left feeling like it can do better.

Burnwinter

otfgoon wrote:
Started watching SoA recently, up to the beginning of season 3. It's a great show to binge on.

These guys have to be the nicest bikers on the planet though, needs to be a little more dark.

It does get a bit darker I suppose. It actually does end, eventually … but it did probably end up with two or more superfluous seasons due to having become popular.

Jens

otfgoon wrote:
Started watching SoA recently, up to the beginning of season 3. It's a great show to binge on.

These guys have to be the nicest bikers on the planet though, needs to be a little more dark.

Tig firing a burst of bullets in the back of Donnas head, Gemma getting tied up and raped repeatedly, I wouldn't say it's the lightest of shows either.

For me the last decent season is season 4. Season 2 is the best by far, followed by 1.

goon

Donna was a tragic mistake. They were the victims of gang rape and their reaction, as ever (Clay assassination attempt etc), was very controlled and pretty mellow in the end, relatively speaking.

Hoping the last three seasons are better than advertised. Remember loads telling me only the first four seasons of TWW were good, yet I thoroughly enjoyed the last 4 too.

Qwiss

I enjoyed all of TWW but I gave up on SOA by the end. Not only does the quality drop but the episodes get longer. A really bad combination.

Jens

It's not fair on SoA to compare it to TWW. The West Wing is in the Sopranos/Breaking Bad/The Wire tier of television, SOA is several steps below.

GaelForce

Burnwinter wrote:
I don't think the network would have green-lit a second season with this "anthology" format if he hadn't given them a workable premise. I'd say the theory episode one was exposition, and the plot will thicken, will turn out to be accurate. The actors are probably going to stay a problem though.

The actors aren't a problem, with the exception of Kitsch (just awful, a charisma vacuum). I think it has a lot of potential, but we're reliant on a brilliantly written detective story, which could end up worryingly cliched. The end of the second episode makes me hopeful that that won't be the case.

Rex

End of episode 2 was certainly interesting! Totally didn't see that coming.

redwhiteAustrian

Qwiss! wrote:
Gurgen wrote:
Watching True Detective after watching Game of Thrones is like watching Özil after watching Flamini.

GOT is a lot like Ozil. It has been great, it still has great moments but you are often left feeling like it can do better.

That's a brilliant summary of GoT.

Very disappointed after Season 5, more so than after Season 4 which is quite a stretch.

marv3llous

Except that im not feeling so when watching Özil.

GoT to me is like Schneiderlin - too many people think he's great, but whenever i watch, i feel it doesnt have anything special.

QuincyAbeyie

Or like Alexis, cause it's awesome.

Daz

Season 5 of GoT was very average.

marv3llous

I lost interest around s3. Now i just keep watching.

Daz

Yeah I found myself watching this season mostly to see what would change from the books. Put it this way, if I had only just tuned into the show now, I wouldn't keep watching. None of the characters are developing in interesting ways (with Arya a possible exception), the action is either non-existent or terribly executed (THAT fight between Jamie, Bronn and the Snakes), and the story is a bit of a mess with little direction.

Burnwinter

Unfortunately, its defining trait and the thing that everyone initially raves about—that the story has enormous 'scope' and an absolutely huge cast of characters—is by this time a massive handicap, when it comes to both books and show.

I read the last two books on autopilot because I simply wasn't interested in a good two thirds of what was happening. Felt the same way about season five.

Daz

I can understand the difficulties in managing the story and could probably accept this if the action was good. But the action scenes either get skipped (ie the battle at Winterhold) or done really poorly (example above). I'm not sure I'll even bother with the next series.

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